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Experience:  I am a licensed Psychologist in New York State. I have been doing clinical work and research since 2005.
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dissoaction chat please
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Mental Health
Expert:  DrToni replied 1 year ago.

DrToni :

Hi my name isXXXXX and I would like to help you with your question about dissociation.

Customer:

HI

Customer:

CAN WE TALK?

DrToni :

Hello, I am here to speak with you. I hope I can be helpful.

Customer:

hi

Customer:

can we talk>?

Customer:

hi

DrToni :

Sure, I am here.

Customer:

how are you?

Customer:

yes

Customer:

hi

DrToni :

I am well thanks, XXXXX XXXXX?

DrToni :

How can I help?

Customer:

am very good

Customer:

i was

DrToni :

:)

Customer:

under

Customer:

dissoiated identity disorder

Customer:

for long time

Customer:

for 5 years

Customer:

and i feel it was something very redcuilos

DrToni :

A lot of people are skeptical of that diagnosis

Customer:

because i didnt take the right midction

Customer:

after i take the right midction

Customer:

i get out it

DrToni :

Sorry to hear that

Customer:

but after that

Customer:

no i recover it

Customer:

and life be very good

Customer:

after that

Customer:

i even

Customer:

didnt lestin to my dr

Customer:

and i stopped midctions

Customer:

becuase i felt i dont need them

Customer:

i be engineer

Customer:

and very sccusful person

Customer:

and have love

Customer:

and friends

Customer:

but

Customer:

just before

Customer:

1 year

Customer:

my dad die

Customer:

in accedant

Customer:

i was with him

Customer:

i get in hospital

Customer:

but he take the hit

Customer:

and died

DrToni :

wow, that is traumatizing

Customer:

yes

DrToni :

im so sorry

Customer:

after that

Customer:

i get in dissoiation again

DrToni :

is that when the symptoms started? After his death?

DrToni :

ok

Customer:

yes

Customer:

so

Customer:

i dont bileve in did

Customer:

becasue

Customer:

even when i had it

Customer:

i can work hard

DrToni :

you are a very strong person

Customer:

and sccsuess

Customer:

yes

Customer:

i am

Customer:

nothing stops me

Customer:

i just dont care

DrToni :

i can see that

Customer:

as far i respect everyone

Customer:

nothing problem

Customer:

with me

DrToni :

i understand

Customer:

i get scholarship in engineering

Customer:

so how i be bad person

Customer:

or mintal health!!

Customer:

i travel to canada

Customer:

now

Customer:
Customer:

my dr told me that you hv did

DrToni :

you have been successful and done better than most people so accepting this diagnosis has been hard. Have you gotten a second opinion from another doctor?

Customer:

but am not sick person

Customer:

yes

Customer:

they said did

Customer:
DrToni :

ok, and have you read about did on your own?

Customer:

because i am clever person

Customer:

yes

Customer:

but when i read

DrToni :

ok

Customer:

\i feel worse

Customer:

and as well as i get out

Customer:

did

Customer:

before

Customer:

i can again

Customer:

why not

Customer:

where is the problem

Customer:

why everyone is hopless

Customer:

againest that

Customer:

iswear i get out it

DrToni :

dissociation is a coping mechanism that people use when they face trauma. It is helpful during trauma. but we sometimes get stuck after the trauma. you might want to try some therapy like body therapies if you havent done that.

Customer:

but i am ok

Customer:

am not

Customer:

dangurous person

Customer:

or person

DrToni :

so it's really just a coping mechanism you use when you face horrible experiences

Customer:

that have wrong with his mind

DrToni :

and you are able to get out of it after a while

Customer:

ok

DrToni :

that's what it sounds like based on what you tell me

Customer:

yes

Customer:

so iam not stupid or crazy?

DrToni :

did sounds scary, don't let that bother you

DrToni :

there are ranges from just a little to very bad

DrToni :

not at all!

Customer:

ok

Customer:

because i cant understand that

DrToni :

make sure you see someone who specializes in did if you ever need help again

Customer:

as far

Customer:

yes

Customer:

as far

Customer:

as i am good person

Customer:

and have my gf

Customer:

and friends

DrToni :

i think it's amazing that you got yourself out of it

Customer:

what i need moree

DrToni :

so move on with your life

DrToni :

leave that in the past

Customer:

yes

Customer:

no

DrToni :

and be successful!

Customer:

now am in again

Customer:

after that trauma

DrToni :

ok right

Customer:

now am in

Customer:

and i feel bad

Customer:

because

DrToni :

if you got out of it before, it looks like you will get out again

Customer:

i cant understand

DrToni :

you found the strength before

Customer:

how one day i be very strong

Customer:

and other hv did

Customer:

yes

DrToni :

this is your way of dealing with it

Customer:

yes

DrToni :

everyone copes in a different way

Customer:

i see

Customer:

that feel good

Customer:

but iahve

Customer:

but i have strange

Customer:

problem

Customer:

happend

Customer:

with me

DrToni :

it is helpful to get support from your friends and gf if you feel comfortable so they can help you realize when it starts to happen

Customer:

because of it

Customer:

i want to ask you

DrToni :

i can see you struggle with this

Customer:

when i travel

Customer:

from lebanon

Customer:

they did emdr

DrToni :

ok

Customer:

while am dissoiated

Customer:

that make me feel

Customer:

bad

Customer:

they make reexperincing

Customer:

of trauma

Customer:

over and over and over

DrToni :

yes, emdr is not for everyone. and sometimes it takes a while to help.

Customer:

i hate emdr

DrToni :

i suggest you read some books by bessel van der kolk

Customer:

i was dissoiated and they make it to me!!

DrToni :

he is an expert and uses different therapies to help with trauma

Customer:

ok

DrToni :

cognitive processing therapy is another good therapy

Customer:

here my qestion to you

DrToni :

ok

Customer:

when i travel

Customer:

from lebanon

Customer:

to canada

Customer:

where i am now

Customer:

usully

Customer:

when i get out dissoiation

Customer:

everything

Customer:

not familier

Customer:

to me

Customer:

that happend

Customer:

throw dissoiation

Customer:

i feel it didnt

Customer:

lets say

Customer:

i was dissoiated for 3 years

Customer:

everything happend

Customer:

that timer

Customer:

when i wake up

Customer:

i dont remember that

Customer:

or i remembeer it

DrToni :

right, this affects memory

Customer:

but it is not real

Customer:

it is not real

Customer:

i cant say it is real

Customer:

my brain says it is not

DrToni :

it's like your brain is playing tricks on you

Customer:

but iknow it is real

Customer:

but feeling

Customer:

says not

Customer:

you know that?

DrToni :

yes, there are cases in the literature where people describe derealization and even depersonalization. this is part of did

Customer:

yes

DrToni :

and again it's the brain trying to cope with the trauma

Customer:

but this was something

DrToni :

but in an ineffective way for you to recover

Customer:

scary to death

Customer:

what happend

Customer:

i came here to canada

DrToni :

i can only imagine how scary that is

Customer:

no

Customer:

i came

Customer:

to canada

Customer:

i was very dissoiated

Customer:

very much

DrToni :

ok

Customer:

after thart

Customer:

when i get out dissoiation

Customer:

my body

Customer:

tell me that canada is not real!!!!!

Customer:

and i know it is real

Customer:

i get confused

Customer:

i get strong headacke

Customer:

i start

Customer:

shouting

Customer:

and enter hospital

Customer:

my body tell me

Customer:

it is not real

Customer:

i call my mother

Customer:

i told here

Customer:

if you didnt book ticket

Customer:

i will die

Customer:

i hv to leave now

Customer:

!!

DrToni :

it's almost like you were in a trance it sounds like

Customer:

yes

Customer:

and i tried to tell myself

Customer:

it is not real

Customer:

this is jordan

Customer:

because last think i remember is jordan

DrToni :

when we don't feel safe, our brains can play strange tricks.

Customer:

i couldnt sty

Customer:

so i leave:-(

Customer:

i go to jordan

Customer:

when i went there

Customer:

i remember the hole jounry

Customer:

to here

DrToni :

ok, you snapped out of it

Customer:

so i take the chanece to get back

DrToni :

but it was quite a journey for you!

Customer:

when i get here

Customer:

again

Customer:

i feel

Customer:

am keeping

Customer:

myslef

Customer:

unleshed

Customer:

becuase i cant remember comeing again to here

Customer:

so ifeel scared

Customer:

i cant

DrToni :

ok so you must feel out of control

Customer:

get out dissoiation

Customer:

and i cant stay like this

DrToni :

you are putting a lot of stress on yourself, and that won't help yourself get out of it

DrToni :

unfortunately that can make it worse

Customer:

because i wake up of apart of dissiotion

Customer:

i couldnt

Customer:

stop it

Customer:

ooh my god

Customer:

but this is my qestuion

Customer:

usuelly

DrToni :

yes

Customer:

things

Customer:

happend

Customer:

in dissoiation

Customer:

out body say it is not real

Customer:

but after that we accept it

Customer:

but how brain

Customer:

can accept canda

Customer:

canada

Customer:

if he cant get out it

DrToni :

so sometimes canada still doesn't feel real? or that was just before?

Customer:

no

Customer:

i dont want the same thing happend again

Customer:

now icant remember coming to here

DrToni :

ok, this is something that can take time

DrToni :

avoiding stress and working with hypnosis might be one solution

DrToni :

but there is a reason you are not remembering and you might not be ready to remember

Customer:

but is brain that stupid

Customer:

that cant accept

DrToni :

we need to listen to our bodies

Customer:

place

DrToni :

no your brain is protecting you

Customer:

ok

DrToni :

i think if you read some of bessel van der kolk this will help

DrToni :

we can store memories in our bodies too and your memories might be all disorganized

DrToni :

from the trauma

DrToni :

these are complex issues and i hope your therapist can work with you to help you heal

Customer:

ok

Customer:

but usuely

Customer:

if someone

Customer:

was dissoiated

Customer:

in country

Customer:

and travel

Customer:

to another country

Customer:

and get out dissoiation

Customer:

he must leave the country

Customer:

and get back

Customer:

or the brain can accept

Customer:

it?

DrToni :

we are all different and our brains cope in different ways, it's hard to generalize with dissociation

DrToni :

you should be able to work on remembering in canada though

DrToni :

that is possible

DrToni :

also read on sensorimotor psychology- could be helpful

DrToni :

i hope i was able to help you with this issue somewhat

Customer:

ok

Customer:

but i still

Customer:

dont know

Customer:

if someone get out dissoiction

DrToni :

http://www.sensorimotorpsychotherapy.org/home/index.html this is one example

Customer:

in another countrie

Customer:

is there a chance

Customer:

to accept it

DrToni :

the issue is bigger than the country, the issue has to do with the feelings brought on by the country

DrToni :

so yes that is possible

DrToni :

understanding triggers when you go in and out of dissociation will help you

DrToni :

Does that help?

Customer:

yes i understand it

Customer:

but that day

Customer:

my feeling

Customer:

tell me it is not real

Customer:

i cant change feeling

Customer:

what happend to you

DrToni :

yes, your brain was protecting you.

Customer:

if you know the dream is real

Customer:

yes it was protecting

Customer:

there

Customer:

but now must not say it is not reak

Customer:

real

DrToni :

the problem is cognitively you know, but emotionally you don't feel that.

DrToni :

it is a challenge for the cognitions and emotions to agree sometimes

DrToni :

and it does take a lot of work

Customer:

yes

DrToni :

but it is possible

Customer:

and i enter hospital for 3 ddays

Customer:

but how?

Customer:

he must be awake

Customer:

to know it

DrToni :

most of us can't do it on our own. we need support.

DrToni :

and we need to really understand what happened and how we reacted

Customer:

yes

Customer:

but

DrToni :

and we need to have compassion for ourselves that we are doing our best

Customer:

i have to get back to my countrie

Customer:

what should i do

DrToni :

I can't tell you what to do unfortunately because I'm not your psychologist. I can tell you about types of therapies and educate you about did, but I'm not allowed to advise you. This is a really difficult issue you are dealing with

DrToni :

i can see it brings up all types of feelings and anxiety for you

DrToni :

but you really need to have patience, be in treatment, and avoid stress

Customer:

i see

Customer:

ok thank

Customer:

you

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