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Hello my friend
This will not hurt your heart in any way.
CBT is going well but hit some bumps this week
Have you told your doctor about about your fears?
Even if I feel anxious after say walking away from door sign and clock?
Yes I have told him and I have a lot of worksheets to go over but its been hard getting motivated to do review since my session on Monday
I see you typing. I want to hear about the "bumps".
Is he actually working with you in session, getting you to look down and then back up, etc.?
The bumps were today I kept looking at the inseam which was black in my underwear I know this sounds weird and I was afraid if I take my view to quick off the gaze it may hurt the heart but this is false again just like the foot issue was?
Also I get worried about not looking back after I stop myself from staring which leads to hyperfocusing like when I leave a room after looking at a sign on the door or wall clock which I was avoiding to stare at?
You have to practice things like this with your therapist. He exposes you to them and then prevents you from responding in a negative way. Exposure and response prevention.
Why can't you work your worksheets? What is stopping you?
So these things I have described do not harm the heart in any way?
No. You have a strong heart.
very tired last couple days
When you get anxiety your heart will sometimes race or you can get a pain in your chest but it is COMPLETELY psychological and causes you no physical harm.
so the slight pain in my chest from leaning over to look at steering wheel while holding laundry was an example of that?
my blood pressure has been averaging around 126/83
Absolutely. It is a panic reaction. That is one of the symptoms. Panic is an anxiety disorder as is OCD.
and it does no harm to heart?
what can I tell myself when I walk out of room after avoiding staring at an object whether it be a label on the door or a clock on the wall?
Tell yourself, "I made it. That wasn't so hard after all!"
and that panic reaction in chest causes no pain to heart?
Absolutely no damage to you whatsoever. It cannot hurt you or give you a heart attack, even though it may feel very scary. Tell yourself, "This is just a panic attack and it will soon be over".
Take some deep breaths slowly in and out. That will help as well.
I think I am doing better but the staring and rechecking thread on my shorts freaked me out today
that was weird
but that also has no connection to the heart either?
None whatsoever. This is OCD. Document all of these incidents and tell your therapist. Time, place and nature of event.
I am trying so hard to stop the OCD action and not think about the heart connecting to this
I should write these down though
Be patient. You will get there.
Keep a journal as they happen. DATE TIME PRECIPITATING EVENT HOW YOU FELT
So after I am driving home from work at think that I did not look long enough at clock or sign on door just say I made it and that does not harm the heart either from thinking if it could?
Cannot hurt you in any way.
As far as the thread on the underwear am I better off not to keep checking it?
You should try checking it but not react. You may wait until you are with your therapist to do this. You have to learn to suppress your reaction and fear of doing this and anything else that sets you off.
If my heart beats fast while doing this that is a normal reaction?
It is the anxiety from panic. It is a symptom of your OCD.
any advice on the hyperfocusing on how to stop it from happening?
Don't do it.
and that is safe for the heart as well to stop it immediately before it gets bad?
Yes. Panic will not hurt your heart. You could not hurt your heart even if you wanted to. This is a psychological reaction.
So I am improving by stopping and moving away before it gets bad?
In a sense. You must get to the point that it will NEVER bother you. That is your goal.
Thanks for believing in me
You are very welcome, and I shall keep you in my prayers, Kevin.
any other advice tonight on my dilemas of anxiety? I know that I have to keep telling myself my heart is fine and I have to stop taking my blood pressure every day multiple times
the cuff pressure on the left arm can never harm the heart from beating as well?
Keep in mind as you go to sleep that you are getting better and you will soon be healed. Cuff pressure can never hurt you.
Thank you Elliott and I will work more on the sheets
Great idea. Have a good night.
just one last question so even if you think something like not looking at something again when you have left the area
has affected the heart in reality it has no affect on the heart in that case
It cannot hurt your heart. It is just panic and feels scary but can NEVER hurt you.
Thank you Elliott so I should just tell myself I made it and my heart is fine?
Thank you so much and have a good evening
You too. Goodnight.
God bless you Kevin. You shall be free of this OCD.
my anxiety this afternoon happened in my work kitchen where I stood facing a table and kept fixating on a napkin holder with a smiley face sun on it. I became worried if I move away and walk to my right away from it and it goes out of view that will somehow affect the heart negatively. I kept telling myself my heart is fine but it was very hard for some reason to move away for some periods of time. Does this affect the heart or is there no correlation to heart and this is just anxiety telling me false thoughts again?
thank you so much Elliott,
At the end of the work day I only looked back at the smiley face napkin holder once and said goodbye to it and walked away. Is it the anxiety that makes me freeze up and stare at this object or any other object. As my therapist says move away from it but the thoughts get so strong it is hard to move away fast at times. Any way I can shorten the duration of the staring?
I just wondered if you could answer the question to this problem on staring at objects. At work I tend to stare at the wall phone by turning my head to the right where it is at. In order to break that cycle I turned my head to the left then up and down on table. Does staring for periods of time affect the heart negatively and am I best to stop focus on it and ignore it when it gets bad? Also tonight I looked at my car through my condo vestibule window for a few minutes and my heart was beating fast from anxiety was it safe to turn away and go up the stairs without looking back at the car again? The looking at my car was turning into staring so I turned away and walked up the stairs. Was this harmless to heart as well? Thank you
I have a follow up question regarding my OCD. This is embarassing and involves lifting my left foot and setting it on the ground. I have developed this fear yesterday morning that if I set my left or right foot down a certain way that would affect my heart in some negative way like change the pulse or rhythm so is that totally false thinking? Does the heart function separately from the movement of our feet? Thank you
thank you Elliott so actually the movement of lifting the foot up and setting it down is good for the heart because in a way it is like exercise however I do not want to treat the obsession as that so there is no harm to come to heart by doing this action?
Thank you so much Elliott just one last follow up I stood in front of my mirror and lifted each foot up and set it down one at a time and said this does not harm my heart and did it with each foot four times. Then I stood straight ahead and said my heart is fine. I challenged the anxiety and I think I beat it because I stopped hesitating lowering my foot to ground. This morning when I was hesitating to lower foot to ground that was harmless as well to heart so basically none of these actions affected my heart in a bad way? Thank you again!
my bp was 118/82 and pulse of 64 at the doctors office but when I got home it was 123/76 with a pulse of 120. I did have anxiety looking at building in front of my car before turning away and walking to my condo also I had similar experience before doctors office looking at poles before walking away. Is the vision function still separate from heart function and could the anxiety have raised the pulse that high?
I kept looking at the wall sign that said Facial Tissue in the pharmacy department. I squeezed my left hand to feel my pulse and again the false thoughts about if I do not look at that particular sign enough it will somehow affect my heart. I did my best not to stare at it. Again even the nervous impulse to stare and not to stare at that sign has no impact on the heart function? Thank you