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"ELLIOT"hi elliot, many thanks for your reply. i have been reading a little about ocd and it appears as if the techniques described to overcome this apply to myself but it is a physical movement or a tic as you have described. it is something i have grown to live with and control, i was just more curious that at times when it gets worse if there was some sort of medication. it becomes mental torture sometimes. if i wanted to talk in person to a professional what kind of a doctor or specialist should i look for?