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2004 Ford F650 with 6.0L will start and run and die. It

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2004 Ford F650 with 6.0L will start and run and die. It trips the ECM relay.
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Medium and Heavy Trucks
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 1 year ago.
Hi
Any trouble codes stored?
How often does this occur?
Does it restart easily?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
No codes
Varies from 5-10min to 20-25min unless we pull the crank inhibitor relay and it will run for an hour.
Won't restart unless we swap the ECM relay or wait 2-7min.
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 1 year ago.
I need to confirm the file below does show the relay your having issues with.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90220402/04F650ECM.png
When the truck stales, if you immediately remove the ECM relay are pins 30 and 85 showing battery voltage?
I suspect its pin 86 with the issue. With the key on, does it show a ground, it should?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
After it shut down after an hour and a half there was no power to relay 209. The relay was warm to the touch and this time swapping relay's didn't allow it to restart right away.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Where is pin 86?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Pin 86 has ground only with key on
Expert:  Chris (aka-Moose) replied 1 year ago.
Okay so it does not have power to the relay.
This relay should have power all the time, for it not to have power when it shuts down would mean the fuse box has an issue or fuse 20 is making poor contact. I have attached this circuit diagram below.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90220402/650ECM.pdf
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Thanks Chris

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