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Mazda Z5 timing set Please help
, yes, I have tried

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Mazda Z5 timing set Please help
JA: Thanks. Can you give me any more details about your issue?
Customer: yes, I have tried everything up to this point. for some reason the timing is still out of whack I have tried to set the cams to each other with the timing chain and then to set the timing with the pulley boss on the crankshaft for some reason, I have some exhaust gases coming out of the intake now
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Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Mazda
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I have replaced the distributor, plugs, wires, crank pos sensor, rebuilt the entire engine from top to bottom.
Now, need to make sure the timing is properly set. So it looks like the book says to align the cams to each other.
Then to set the main intake cam pulley with the Z at twelve oclock, and the pulley boss at twelve oclock as well.
There are two off color chain links on the cam chain, and I have aligned these with the dimples on the cams.
Please tell me if any of this is wrong.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
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Expert:  Ron replied 1 year ago.

Hello, my name is ***** ***** I am a professional here at Just Answer. I have noticed that your question was not getting a response and thought I would see if you still need help with this.I apologize for the delay and I hope I can still assist you with this here.

I will be glad to check the timing information for you but in order to do so I need to know what year your working on. If you can post this information back Ill have a look and see if I can verify the information your need.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
1997 Mazda Protege 1.5L DOHC 16 Valve
MPFI Rail Injection
Main Drive Cam Intake
Idler Cam Exhaust
Complete engine Rebuild
Expert:  Ron replied 1 year ago.

Is this a US built 1.5. Im not seeing this engine in 1997.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
US built. I believe the same engine used in 95 96 97 Mazda Protege
Expert:  Ron replied 1 year ago.

It was used in the 1995 Protege but it came with a belt , so your has a chain?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Cams are ganged with tie chain and tensioner
Intake cam has drive gear
Exhaust Cam tied together only with cam tie chain
Drive from pulley boss is timing belt with one adjuster and one idler pulley
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
There is one small idler gear for timing belt on exhaust side
Expert:  Ron replied 1 year ago.

This is what Im finding and I do not think its what you you need. See the link below, copy and paste it to your browser to open and view it. If this is not what you need let me know.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104923897/T%20belt%20Feb%2020.pdf

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Very similar engine, but there is only one drive cam gear on the intake (left) side
Expert:  Ron replied 1 year ago.

Okay, Unfortunately this is all I have so Im going to open the post back up for you and hopefully someone can help you with what you need. If they can they will post back. Im sorry I could not help you with this here.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
That's ok, thank you for your assistance
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 1 year ago.

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please recheck your marks especially on the bottom (crank) please see pics.

the first pic is the top and the second is the bottom there is a difference with thet.b. pulley on and off where is tdc!!

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I am sorry, but I was tinkering with this all day and just now saw the reply.Great News is, it works fine.For the benefit of all who read this, here is the outline of events.This car overheated and the engine ceased.
After the engine was completely disassembled, here is what was found:Head was way warped, head gasket blown, pieces of piston were found in the oil pan, oil and water mix, scoring on piston walls, some scoring on main bearing journals.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Machine Shop work:Straighten and mill Cylinder Head
Realign valve train adjustments, valve clearance, valve lash.
Turn and mill Crank for plus .010
Bore out Cylinders to plus .020
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Invested in new parts:
Radiator with relief cap, thermostat, hoses
Full Head gasket set including
Intake / exhaust manifolds / valve cover
Main bearings, rod bearings at plus .010 rings, over sized pistons at plus .020
Complete timing kit with pulleys and belt,
Oil Pump, and Water Pump,
Full set of fuel injectors, distributor, cap and rotor, wires, crank position sensor
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
the main issue after timing set and recheck, was still suspect the intake cam timing as exhaust was being forced out intake manifold with a crank, no startSo the problem was:
The Intake cam pulley has three set points to align the intake cam and the timing belt drive pulley. The Z mark was actually off by a total 120 degrees from the intake cam itself. Reset to proper alignment and, what do ya know, it runs very fine now.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
My hope, is that this can help someone.
Anyone with the Mazda Z5 1.5L
Good Luck.
And.
Cheers, Mate.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 1 year ago.

hey glad you got it .