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2006 Kia Rio: with 206000 kms on it..car for the first couple

 
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I have a 2006 Kia Rio with 206000 KM's on it. I do a lot of driving since I deliver pizza for a second job 3 or 4 times a week and both my daughters were using the car for the first couple of years that I had it. I've had it since January 2008 and I still have over 2 years to go on my loan. . It does a lot of stopping and starting and hill climbing etc. for sure. My check engine light has been on steady for over a year now, but lately it blinks from 4 to 12 times when i have to climb a fairly steep grade or accelarate from a dead stop. it seems to hesitate a little too, sometimes shuddering a couple of times. In August it was leaking oil and I had to get an oil flow sensor replaced. And when I gas up it takes me usually 3 times to get it started. I've been told that all these problems can be gas/emissions related and can even be caused if the gas tank cover is not screwed on tight enough. What do you think?

 

Country: Canada
Make: Kia
Model: Rio LX
Year: 2006
Engine: 4 cylinder, 1.6L?

Already Tried:
oil change and filter, new air filter, switch to a higher grade gasoline. engine treatment, gas treatment.

Submitted: 544 days and 10 hours ago.
Category: Kia
Value: CA$18
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  Carguy1 replied 544 days and 10 hours ago.

Hi Sir or Madam Thank you for choosing JA, I will do my very best to assist you with your concern.
Hi there!
How many miles on the car?
Has the check engine light ever been scanned for codes?

Customer replied 544 days and 10 hours ago.

around 129,000 miles. it has never been scanned for codes.

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Expert:  Carguy1 replied 544 days and 10 hours ago.

Ok, Here is what I think.
First, the flashing check engine light normally means the car has a misfire.
This would be the hesitation and shuddering that you are feeling.
If the timing belt hasn't been done, it should be. The car should have it replaced every 60k miles. It is possible the timing belt has jumped time and is causing the flashing check engine light since it seems to happen under heavy load like going up a hill.
The trouble starting after refueling is usually a problem with the purge control solenoid.
When this sticks open and you fuel the car, the fuel vapors go up into the intake and flood the engine. Holding the pedal to the floor while cranking should help the car start easier.
I would honestly start by having the codes read to try and diagnose the misfire. IF it is misfiring on one then more cylinder, I would suspect the timing belt as the culprit.

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Customer replied 498 days and 14 hours ago.

Now I have a scraping, grinding, crunching sound when I turn the steering wheel, especially when I turn it to the left and the car squeaks sometimes when I go over bumps. the weird thing is that the other night when it was raining hard, the steering made very little noise. people have suggested to me a uv joint, a strut or strut mount, a ball joint or even a ti-rod end, althought there is no vibration in the steering wheel.

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Expert:  Carguy1 replied 498 days and 14 hours ago.

Does the car have to be moving for the noise to happen or does it happen if you were sitting at a light and just turned the wheel?

Customer replied 498 days and 14 hours ago.

it will happen at a light if i turn the wheel as well. it is especially noticeable when i turn the wheel hard to the left when leaving a parking lot.

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Expert:  Carguy1 replied 498 days and 14 hours ago.

Ok, it sounds to me like either a bad wheel bearing or a strut mounting plate.
Since you hear it even though the car is not is motion, I would suspect the strut bearing plate.
The wheel bearing would only make noise when the car was rolling.
As for a tie rod end or ball joint, very unlikely, they tend to make a clunk type of sound.
The CV joint makes a rapid clunking sound and the car would have to be moving to hear that.
Therefor, I think the place to start would be the strut bearing plate.
Hope this helps!

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