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why cant i get transmission back in my jeep after 2.5L motor swap??

 
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why cant i get transmission back in my jeep after 2.5L motor swap??

 

Country: United States
Make: Jeep
Model: Wrangler
Year: 2001
Engine: 2.5l

Already Tried:
tranny wont go in all the way after installing re-built motor

Submitted: 825 days and 2 hours ago.
Category: Jeep
Value: $18
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  brownjeff replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

Hello and Welcome to JustAnswer,

My name is XXXXX XXXXX X am here to try and assist your with your question. Is this an automatic or manual transmission?

Customer replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

an auto

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Expert:  brownjeff replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

The torque converter may have slid out a little and needs put back in. Try turning and pushing on the torque converter at the same time to get it back into the transmission

Customer replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

have tried everything for days. changed motor 2.5L(rebuilt from A&A) same as what was in it tranny wont go all the way in about 3/8 inch i i know not to draw it up tight with bolts. converter is def in all the way. it dropped clicked and can hear pump spinning. do they make 2 different cranks for manual and auto??

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Expert:  brownjeff replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

Are you using all the other old parts except the engine? For example same flywheel?

Customer replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

YES EVERYTHING THE SAME DONT GET IT IVE DONE MANY SWAPS BEFORE. took converter out and placed in flywheel and crank. it fits. it looks to me like the crank is too long. there is no bushing in end of crank either.

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Expert:  brownjeff replied 825 days and 2 hours ago.

Not sure if the cranks are different or not. I will send your questions to the others here on the site and see if they know. Hang on one should reply to you shortly

Customer replied 825 days and 1 hours ago.

any luck???? no one has gotten back to me!!

Customer replied 825 days ago.

Relist: Other.
didn't have an answer for me. he said someone else would get back to me but no one has 1 1/2 hrs later.

Customer replied 824 days and 11 hours ago.

any answer to my question yet?????

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

Hello, I am another expert and my name is Vladimir.
I have checked my part catalog and I can tell you that there is only one crankshaft is used for either manual or automatic transmissions.
Have you checked if your flexplate( flywheel) fits to converter?

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

yes it all fits together when i try and put tranny to motor torque converter bottoms out to flex plate and leaves 3/8 gap between bell housing and motor

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

What about a thin metal plate that is supposed to be between the flexplate and 6 bolts?
Have you checked if there is any pivot bearing( for manual transmission) inside the rear end of the cranckshaft?

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

yes nothing in there

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

What about a thin metal plate? is it installed?

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

yes its very thin

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

Well, the only thing I can think about is that you haven't installed your torque converter full way.

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

thats what everyone says but ive taken it in and out so many times it doesnt go in any further. had tranny rebuilt and they said they rebuilt my converter and when i got it back it had a converter brace to hold it in place. didnt fit then either

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

Did you use the same model year engine?

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

well who knows got a rebuild from a auto parts store. supposedly there are many years it works for. everything went together the same. all electronics and bolt ons.

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

my thought is the motor is wrong but cant seem to verify that

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

Well ask them just to be sure. I suppose we have gone over all possible reasons, but at the same time It could not be a miracle. Something has been probably overlooked.

Customer replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

i have done many swaps and could always get them back together this ones just not working. will have to verify motor but everyone has been on vaca till monday. since i didnt really get and wnswer to my question i would like a refund
thanks, dan

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Expert:  Vladgmru replied 824 days and 10 hours ago.

Ok Dan, I will report your question as refund requested.
Good luck.

Customer replied 824 days and 9 hours ago.

thanks bud

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 6 hours ago.

Have you checked to make sure that the engine and transmission both dont have alignment pins?

Customer replied 824 days and 3 hours ago.

im sure i have but i will triple check that again.

Customer replied 824 days and 3 hours ago.

in fact i said before, converter bottoms out on flexplate

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

Then it's either the wrong torque converter,converter not in all the way or incorrect flexplate.

Customer replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

well i re-used old flex plate and was told the tranny guy had my old torque converter rebuilt. he says its the same one. did they use different crankshafts for auto and manual trannys?? it seems to me like the crank is too long!!

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

No, same cranks are the same.But you cannot rebuild a torque converter.You have to cut them open, change parts, weld them back together then rebalance them.I have never seen a shop rebuild a torque converter in a shop.It sounds like it is the wrong converter.The snout on it is too long. You could go to a parts store and see if they have a torque converter and measure the snouts to compare them.

Customer replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

they sent it out to be rebuilt i know the process. evrthing fits when tried out of the tranny. converter fits but when in tranny it bottoms out on flexplate leaving a gap between bell housing and motor, yes i guess i should see if it is the same as a new one.

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

It is either the wrong one or not in the pump all the way then

Customer replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

i am positive it goes all the way in the pump i have tried it at least 20 times and for frickin DAYS!!!! am at my wits end. have never had such trouble before there also is no bushing or pilot bearing in end of crank if you might ask that. lol

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 2 hours ago.

No I have read all the post before mine.I even know they both mentioned not being all the way in.Just a question. When you put the converter in, while spinning and pushing the converter in do you hear one thud or two?

Customer replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

yes felt click and can even hear pump spinning

Customer replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

is titled 01 but manufact. in 00. i know this is typical but if they changed motor type in 01 and we got an 01 motor could that be an issue? did they change motor type for 01?

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

There should be two clicks heard not just one.First one is pump second one is input shaft. How much of a gap is there between the pump and converter when installed?

No I don't believe 00 and 01 would be different

Customer replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

cant get it in any futher than it going have had it in and out so many times lost count. as far as gap, not sure. will have to check on that. what should it be?

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

very small, you should not be able to get your finger in between them.

Customer replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

yeah i know its bout that its tight.

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Expert:  Chad replied 824 days and 1 hours ago.

Ok, I was just trying to give you somethings to check. Sorry I could not be anymore help. I still suggest you find one and measure them both.

Customer replied 823 days and 21 hours ago.

thanks prob best idea

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Expert:  Chad replied 823 days and 10 hours ago.

Sorry I could not help you fix it.

Customer replied 823 days and 10 hours ago.

ok thanks for trying am asking for a refund from deposit if you could put in for that? much apreciated.
thanks, dan

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Expert:  Chad replied 823 days and 9 hours ago.

I already did that.Hope you get it put back together.

Customer replied 823 days and 9 hours ago.

thanks chad will let you know what the prob was so you may be able to help someone else with the same issue

 
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