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AC won't turn on. Not getting 24V signal to contactor . Unit

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AC won't turn on. Not getting 24V signal to contactor . Unit runs if contacts are manually engaged.
JA: I'll do all I can to help. Tell me a bit more about what's going on so we can help you best.
Customer: Thermostat was replaced last yr by daughters BF, it worked fine with heat. He & old thermostat r gone
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Customer: It is Lennox gas furnace with heat pump for AC outside, thermostat is Honeywell rth111
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Submitted: 6 months ago.
Category: HVAC
Expert:  Sean replied 6 months ago.
Sounds like a wire at thermostat may be not hooked up correctly. Should be a easy fix.Can you check at thermostat and tell me if anything is hooked to the Y terminal.
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
Yellow wire
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
There is a slider switch on back of thermostat that has 2 positions, gas/oil or electric/heat pump. The fur ands is gas and AC is a heat pump. Where should that b set?( I've tried both & it didn't make any diff)
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
Stupid auto spell! Furnace, not fur ands......
Expert:  Sean replied 6 months ago.
Alright. I seen you said this is a heat pump system also ?
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
Lennox HS23-261-1P unit is outside
Expert:  Sean replied 6 months ago.
Do you have access to a voltage meter?
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
Sure, how else would I know I'm not getting 24V to the coil?
Expert:  Sean replied 6 months ago.
I just wanted to make sure before we go into it further.First things first I'm almost 100%sure the thermostat you have is not a heat pump ready stat.....So at the contactor at AC. You have 2wires at coil that then go down to wire nuts which is thermostat wire that runs to the furnace....... I can't just tell you colors because some installers do it differently but I would like you to.check for 24v at furnace.
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
Nope, nothing there, only place I have 24VAC is the R terminal. The coil runs between T & W
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
This is on the PCB on the furnace unit
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
There is also nothing connected to the Y terminal on the furnace PCB
Expert:  Sean replied 6 months ago.
I'm gonna opt out right now see if someone can grab this I'm out and limited what I can do over phone I'll be home in about an hr and if no one else grabbed the.question I'll.jump back on.
Expert:  airheatman replied 6 months ago.

Your daughter's BF has installed the incorrect thermostat for your heat pump.The RTH111 is not compatible. You will need to get a two stage cool and single stage heat thermostat designed to work with our heat pump.See link below

Customer: replied 6 months ago.
Manual that came with it says it can't b used on a heat pump with auxiliary B/U heat, it does say it can't b used with a heat pump. I went thru Honeywells website to help me choose the correct non-programmable, DIY thermostat and ended up with the RTH111 as one of the choices......😳
Customer: replied 6 months ago.
this cooling unit is a 2 stage system?
Expert:  airheatman replied 6 months ago.

OK lets backup just for a minute. The original question is a bit misleading. You stated that you have gas heat with a heat pump outdoor unit.If that were the case, you would have 2 stage heat. (Heat pump is first stage and furnace is second stage or backup heat) The RTH111 would not be compatible.

However as I read your previous conversation with other expert you provided model on outdoor unit.

The HS23-261-P is NOT a HEAT PUMP (Heat pump would be an HP23-261).

So with this figured out that means the switch on back needs to be set to AC instead of Heat PUMP.

WE should have wires as follows:

Thermostat---------------------Furnace------------------Outdoor

R with jumper to RC--------------R

Y--------------------------------------------------------------Y

G-----------------------------------G

W----------------------------------W

Nothing at thermostat------------C-------------------------C.

Verify this and let me know if it works