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I will respond after the repairman inspects the unit.
I answered you after the repairman visited telling you that the evaporator coil is leaking and that he added R12 freon in trhe amount of $197.00 in addition to the service call of $89.00. His remarks were that the problem is "turned over to sales."
The Airtron rep came today and reviewed our options.
1. Repair to the evaporator wouldd run $1800 to $2000. with a new coil unit.
2. Our air and furnace units are of the 80% classification which is to be phased out in 2013.
3. We can have a new Bryant 3 ton 16 seer unit coupled with a 96% efficiency rating (80000BTU) 2 stage Bryant furnace replacement with a 10 year parts and labor warranty installed for$7520 after a $400 electric co. rebate and a$500 dealer discount. This includes a new programable thermostat. A neighbor in a like condo house had this replacement and appears to be very satisfied. Her price was$1250. lower than our quote(without the programable thermostat) so I would question that difference.
Hello again,Let me be as objective as possible and address each point separately. that should give you the over view you need.1.) a new cooling coil costs $250 wholesale (or less) change out is 4 hours maximum as a rule. The going labor rates are in the $100 per hour range. The job generally sells for well under $1,000. 2.) Your 80% furnace will never be phased out if its already in place. Only the saleof *new 80% furnaces is affected. Your salesman had misrepresented that issue along with the value of the coil replacement. (a coil which in many cases can be repaired for under $500 or so)3.) The $7500 quote you got was on the high end of the typical price range for such a job. not exorbitant but high. If you put the job out to bid you will get quotes as low as $5,500.The programmable thermostat fits that equipment sells wholesale for $125... add 50% for retail pricing, and figure an extra half hour to install it as compared to a non programmable thermostat.Regarding the 96% efficient furnace... in southern California or Florida it will save you maybe $50 a year, it will never pay for itself... if you are in the northern part of the US cold climate region, it will pay for itself in under 3 or 5 years... unless it has technical problems that are common with those complex systems... those repairs cost $300 to $500 on average... in those cases the furnace will not pay back on its added purchase price.I will put the rating box up so you can rate my service if you like, let me know please if it fails to arrive. I would appreciate that. I hope you find this information helpful.
If you choose to rate my service to you, you may stay in touch on this as needed for as long as it takes.Thanks!
Your summary is just what I need to make a sound decision. If I repair I will know what we are talking about and what to ask and if I replace I will be in a better bartering position.
I decided to look into this a bit further by inspecting the evap coils myself.
There is a considerable amount of rust/corosion on the end pieces and some standing water inthe tray under them but the coils and all of the interior looks good. The water could be condensation or freon but i think it is water. I willm get another estimate from a good company and let you know.
Phil, Thanks for your follow up inquiery. I thought we had concluded our question when your grading box came up and I graded you High.
In the end , I took your report to my son who agreed with you 100%. I then called my furnace man from the old house (before we moved to this condo) and he too felt that my first quote was virtually a rip off and said he will first check for the leak and either repair it or put in a new condenser. At this time we are waiting for this to be done as he has other jobs more pressing and we have no discomfort in the dry weather.
Thank you again for stoping this large unnecessary expense..