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I have several custermers with fire pots that no longer work

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I have several custermers with fire pots that no longer work or haven't worked for several years,the company that supplied the equipment and installed have apparantly gone out of business. In the last few years I have replaced several gas valves, ignition modules, tranformers,and pilot assemblys ,purchaced from that company. The equipment is Robertshaw 780-715 u ignition control, 720-079 gas valve (LP), the pilot assemble looks like honey wells Q345A1305 , the module and gas valve are in electrical boxs fairly weather tite any where from 7' to 15' away from fire pit and pilot , I am asking you if this seems to be the right equipment for the job ,what limitations there might be esspecially with the ignition cable length or any other sugestions . These are homes on a golf coarse on the ocean in Hawaii. Thanks for your help Mark Donovan Clearwater Plumbing & Mechanical(NNN) NNN-NNNN E-mail XXX@XXXXXX.XXX

Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: HVAC
Expert:  Phil replied 1 year ago.


Phil :

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Phil :

Hello

Phil :

From a distance here, not seeing the details of the application, indoors or outdoors or the characteristics of the burner, can only give a limited opinion.

Phil :

At first glance however, if it has electronic ignition and with that of course a flame sensor, and that works, and tests well for flame failure shut down, it should be fine.... however the local codes may have changed. and I cant see the other details from here.

Phil :

To protect your customer and yourself, you might consider asking the gas company to send a man out to inspect one of those and get a detailed invoice from him showing what he checked.. if he had no recommendations to condemn or modify the installation you have that degree of protection.

Phil :

You could also ask the city plumbing and heating inspector to look one of the jobs over, at some risk, but if he had no complaint you would have even better protection.

Phil :

If these units are inside there can be potentially more issues than if they are outside.

Phil :

With the wiring, pilot/ ignition/ flame sensor at 15'from the gas valve there is no issue...high tension wire needs to be fit for the spark ignition, same type that it uses now most likely.

Phil :

the gas line at 15' should not pose a problem either, you may want to upsize the gas line to the next size up from the gas valve to the burner head, depending on whats there now, how many 90 degree els it has, how it has worked so far .....and the btu rating of the burner.

Phil :

Tell me if its propane or natural gas. and if the pots are indoors or outdoors. Let me know what you think, and what your concerns are... we can go from there.

Phil :

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