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Hello,I have heard the world of good about Kopertox for thrush. This is not admitted in Germany however, I can probably get copper naphtenate mixed in the drugstore. Could you recommend a mixture concentrate?I am currently using H3O3 3% for cleaning and Jodoformium ether 2,5% for drying and disinfection 2-3 times a week. Would you expect Kopertox to do a better job?Best regardsUte Warmbrunn
Optional Information: Type of Animal: Horse Gender: female Age: 14 Already Tried: h3o3; jodoformium ether there is not much else I can do in this weather, it its winter, its wet.
Are you treating thrush?
as explained, with jodoformium and peroxide. Are you suggesting this isn't treatment? If so what esle can I do?
Sorry, I misread your original statement. I have not had great success with Kopertox for thrush. I would expect the peroxide to work better. Can you describe where the thrush is, and the foot conformation (depth of frog crevices, etc)?
biggest problem is deformed front hoof, where the frog crevice goes up to hairline, depth up to 3 cm, i stick cottonwool drenched with iodoformium ether (yellow powder solved in ether) into it. rest is up to i cm and regularly goes away in summer.
rest as in other hooves, they don't worry me any longer after 5 years of dealing with this issue.
That's the central sulcus. Is the other front foot similar in conformation?
What is her breed?
hoof deformation- lacking vocabulary here: very steep form, complete hoof smaller than the others, angular problem with hoof bone, almost 30% deviation from normal. (like in lamitis, but caused by operation)
What operation?
she is brandenburg breed (German Sport Horse), 172 cm stock measure, 680 kg
sounds like you're describing what we call a cub foot
sorry, CLUB foot
Operation for ! caution literal translation! hoof steele
a finger thick formation of deviatin material pressing on the live material, causing inflammation of hoof.
checked club foot - talking about the same thing here.
Literal translations can be troublesome, and my German is 40 years old!
sorry, operation done, hoof deformed. We have to live with that, no its only 1 foot. But what would you recomment for thrush? really bad one in this hoof. The amount of cotton wool I stick into the hole is about half a de -make - up pad. Both our countries have identical products here.
Ok. I have a good mental picture of the problem. For thrush (drossel?), I have had much better luck with dilute household bleach (sodium hypochlorite or NaClO) Typically one part bleach and 10 parts water.
Are you leaving the cotton in place?
well, as long as it stays, tends to fall out after about a day or so.
bleach as in Domestos?
yes
soaking? or just washing?
If the thrush is just in the central sulcus, I "floss" the sulcus with a gauze surgical sponge soaked in dilute bleach until clean.
literal translation for thrush: frog foulness
I do a similar thing with the peroxide - I put it into syringe and rinse with some pressure
flossing would be difficult, not enough access.
You have two issues: the thrush, and the hoof conformation that predisposes her to the thrush. I think dilute bleach would be better than the peroxide, and much better than Kopertox. The dilution helps prevent too much drying and hardening of the surrounding frog (which makes access even harder), but still kills the anaerobic bacteria causing the thrush.
ok, good inspiration. Will try this. How often should I do this?
If the thrush is really bad, I start with once daily treatment, and then once a week is usually enough to prevent recurrence.
And continue with the iodoformium ether or bleach only?
I'd be concerned that the iodoformium would be too drying. A hard frog is harder to clean and treat.
Well, its winter, they stand in mud up to their knees - ok, exaggeration, but 20 - 30 cm is normal.
Winter here too, but the mud is frozen solid until late March
No problem with doing both, you can always stop the iodoformium if the frog gets too stiff
So to conclude: I will try rinsing the hoof daily with 1:10 bleach and continue with the iodoformium. If the frogs should dry out and harden and I stop on the iodoformium. Did I understand correctly?
not cold enough for freezing this winter
exactly
thanks a lot - always a sucker for household tricks - have nice day!
Experience: 23 years in private equine practice.