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surging forward when Im not accelerating..doesnt sound..I shift

 
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1999 Passport sounds like it's surging forward when I'm not accelerating. It doesn't sound or feel like it's in the correct gear. There is a tin can sound in the back, like a tin can rolling around, when I shift and back up. I recently had the timing chain and the water pump changed and the intake gasket, but it idles between 0 and 1. What can I do about these problems, or is there a problem? 1 st passport I ever owned.

 

Country: United States
Make: Honda
Model: Passport 4x2
Year: 1999

Submitted: 352 days and 2 hours ago.
Category: Honda
Value: $29
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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 352 days and 2 hours ago.

This all happens after the timing belt replacement correct?

Customer replied 352 days and 2 hours ago.

Yes

 

Customer replied 352 days ago.

Actually the answer would be yes and no. The passport shakes if going over 50 mph. It always did that. Just purchased from a dealership. Upon making the deal requested the timing chain and water pump be replaced. The other problems occured after taking it home. Then the check engine light came on and the intake gasket needed to be replaced. Just picked it up from the dealer today still shaking even though they said they balanced the tires to their closest balance the tire are All terrain and they look new. Only 72,000 miles on it. Now the tin can sound in the rear and the nopt sounding like it's in gear. It was test drove by the Honda service manager and he said it drives like a truck. He says it is typical for it to idle around .5 to .7. However the surging would have to occur while he was in the vehicle to address the problem.

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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 351 days and 22 hours ago.

Ok is the noise from the rear end of the vehicle?

Customer replied 351 days and 11 hours ago.

The tin can noise is in the rear.

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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 351 days and 10 hours ago.

Ok that's telling you there is an issue with the rear end has this been checked ?

Customer replied 351 days and 9 hours ago.

no

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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 351 days and 8 hours ago.

Ok then thats what needs to be checked next for this issue .Whats happening is the rear end has failed internally and is causing this noise .This can eventually lock up and the vehicle will not move.This is what needs to be checked next for this issue.Hoped this helped.Positive feedback and bonuses greatly appreciated.

Customer replied 351 days and 5 hours ago.

What exactly in the rear end? A cable? The brakes? I don't know much about this truck. What do I tell the service people? There are many components back there correct? Wheel bearings, shocks, rotors, tires, springs. What about the surging I experience where does that come from? Your answer is very vague.

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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 351 days and 5 hours ago.

It would be the gears in the rear axle case that need to be checked .These gears are known to fail and can cause this issue .Its part number 49 in the diagram.
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As for the idle issue there is either air bubbles in the cooling system or the idle air control valve is sticking or the throttle plate is sticking causing this issue.Its also possible they damaged a vacuum line when doing the timing belt repair and this can also cause the idle fluctuation.These are what need to be checked next for this issue.Hoped this helped.Positive feedback and bonuses greatly appreciated.

Customer replied 351 days and 3 hours ago.

I was still wondering about the gear concern. It doesn't sound like it's in the right gear at times, could this be caused from the possible bubbles in the cooling system? Also it is difficult to shift from 2nd to 3rd, at times. I am wondering if there is a transmission problem or is it a clutch problem or is it just because it is a truck? I have never owned a manual transmission truck, however I have driven a manual transmission car.

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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 351 days and 3 hours ago.

That would be a clutch and pressure plate issue and would have that checked next . Hoped this helped. Positive feedback and bonuses greatly appreciated .

Customer replied 351 days and 1 hours ago.

Does that mean it's not a transmission problem? I just need clarification

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Expert:  HondaPlatinum replied 351 days and 1 hours ago.

That's correct it would be the clutch and the pressure plate not the transmission itself .

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