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Can I swap a 1.6 vtech engine from 97 civic coupe into a 96 civic sedan with a non vtech 1.6? I can get the whole vtech coupe so I'll have the mouts, ecm, wire harness, etc. I just need to know if it's possible, and if so what I'll need to change over from the donor car to make it work. I have auto motive experience on other makes, but I've never done a honda engine swap before. All the info you can provide will be greatly appreciated Thanks Morris
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Yes it can be done. The main problem could be if you are changing the transmission types, ex. automatic to manual or vice versa. That is where things get really tricky & expensive. If it is the basic change an engine out of one car to the other, then yes, fairly simple. If you have the entire donor car, then yes, the engine, transmission, engine wiring harness, engine mounts, axles, ECM, etc. can be used from the donor car & will just bolt right in. I would recommend to also use the fuel pump from the donor car as well. It is would be very much like a plug & play type job, that just takes a couple of hours. Any other questions, please let me know. Thank you.
Wes
I just need to get the sedan running again the motor went, I came across the donor car which is a front end hit. Should I swap the engine and trans together from the donor car or can I just swap the engine? Will I automaticlly have to use the wiring harness from the donor car? will it disconect from under the hood or will I be pulling the dash out? I'm just trying to figure out how far I'll have to go to get this done. Is there anything about this job that wouldn't be plug and play? Thanks Again Morris
Morris,
It would be much easier to swap the engine & transmission together from the donor car as long as it has the same transmission in the car that blew the engine. Also, use the axles & check the motor mounts.
If the front end of the donor car was hit, hopefully the engine harness is intact & not cut anywhere. If so, you will need to get another engine harness, unless you want to try to labor through to fix it. Yes you will need to remove the dash to get to part of the engine harness on both cars. Some people say you could use the old harness from the old car, but then have to wire in for the VTEC on the new engine. It can be done, but is usually more of a hassle, with the possilbilty of ruining the ECM if not worked around properly. I would rather spend a little more time to get it done correctly & without any worries of re-wiring something.
Here is a diagram of the wiring harness for the EX coupe:
Hopefully you can see that the engine wiring harness goes through the firewall of the car, so yes, will have to remove or loosen the dash to get to some of the connections. Here some help for the removal of the engine:
Civic
The engine and trans axle are removed from the vehicle as one unit.
To install:
Use new self-locking nuts and gaskets when installing the front exhaust pipe and when assembling the front suspension. Use new set rings on the inboard CV-joint splined shafts.
Failure to tighten the bolts in the proper sequence can cause excessive noise and vibration and reduce bushing life. Be sure to check that the bushings are not twisted or offset.
I will try to see if I can get a diagram for the dashboard for you also. It should be straight forward, but any other questions, please feel free to ask. Thank you.
Experience: 3 1/2 years in Honda/Acura dealership-have done it all. 15+ years automotive work history.
Wes Thank you so much for all the info you're the greatest. If you can get the dash diagram for me that would great,you can send to my email if you XXXXXXX@XXXXXX.XXX. The guy I'm buying the donor car from says it's not a vtech but when I looked up the value of the car on KellyBlueBook.com it came back as a vtech engine. He gave me 2 different engine codes D16Y8 and H22A4 I have the vin 1HGEJ8248VL122162 from the donor car can you tell me for sure if it's a vtech? there were no stickers for the engine code on the car. The vin for the car that I'm swapping the engine into is 2HGEJ6678TH553068 Thank again Morris
The correct engine for the 97 Civic EX 2DR would be the D16Y8 from the factory. If the car has an H22A4 (Prelude) engine in it, then the donor car you are thinking of purchasing has had an engine swap as they are known. This particular engine swap done is very common, put a larger/higher horsepower engine into a Civic. Here is a diagram of engine codes for 1996-2000 Civic's:
If that is the engine that is truly in the donor car, then you will be doing a lot more work to get that engine into your car. Without seeing the donor car exactly & if that engine is in it, I would really think about not doing the engine swap from that car. It would be a lot of fun, but there are a few more things to be done if that is the case for your car to fit the engine & transmission combo from the Prelude into your car. If that is something you will still want to do, here is a website that should help even more with mounts, wiring harnesses, shift linkages, etc.:
http://www.hasport.com/
Here is some other good information on how to read your VIN #:
The Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) can be found in three locations. It is stamped into the body on the top, center portion of the firewall, on a stamped plate attached to the left front top of the dashboard, and on a label located on the driver's door jam near the door latch. The VIN on the dashboard is the easiest to see, as it is close to the windshield on the driver's side of the vehicle and visible by looking through the windshield near the tip of the left side wiper blade.
The 17-character label contains the following information:
I still working on to get the dash information. I am not sure if you may want to try to find another engine the same as what came out of your car or what. Please let me know, so we can take the route best suited for you. I think this latest information kind of changes everything now, unless you were looking forward to doing a drastic change over to the engine. Thank you.
Here is info for the dash:
http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/sarmiento22556/2009-02-26_203333_Civic_dash_removal.pdf
A special thanks to Juan for the information. Darn computers. Hopefully, that will help if you need to remove the dash. Any other questions, please let me know. Thank you.