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Can you please call me as soon as you're available...ill be ready to take the call...need to get this done today?? Trying to get my outside speakers and wifi for Pandora set up
Submitted: 11 months ago.
Category: Home Theater-Stereo
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Hello, I’m Nathan, and I’ll be assisting you today. My livelihood depends on your positive feedback, so your satisfaction is my highest priority.

Sorry to hear you’re having trouble. My apologies for missing you earlier, I'm happy to help you with this via phone, or here in chat if you prefer.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
OK I need to get my outdoor speakers working... can you walk me through it? Also Im a slow typer
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Yes I can help you, I believe we've talked a few times in the past.

This is for a denon avr-x3000, correct?
I believe we had them working once on zone 2 for internal sources (pandora), correct?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
LOL I never did get around to making my outdoor speakers function and I don't have an ethernet to hook up for Pandora , at least not in reach
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
But yes same equipment
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Okay well the avrx3000 model is not wifi capable, so ethernet is necessary there.

The outdoor speakers can be driving off the zone 2 outputs, you just have to go into speaker setup and set the amp assign to use the last 2 amp channels for zone 2 instead of back surround or height speakers.

Are you using just a single pair, or is there a speaker switch or external amp used?

Are you needing help with the wiring too, or just with the settings

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Its already wired...I just need to put it in the right spot on the back and get it setup in the receiver itself
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

The network is wired?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Not the network but the speakers are wired already from the previous receiver. Im looking at it now and I might have a problem... The wires from those speakers are the kind you put the positive and the negative in the places you would screw down to hold in place as for the Denon has in zone 2 the kind you plug in???? Is there such a thing to convert that to make it work so that we don't have to rewire this ? from Radio shack maybe
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

The speaker wires go to the zone 2 (surround terminals), they are shaded gray on the back.

Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

If you don't have a network connection to it yet, since it doesn't have wifi, if you can't do ethernet, there are alternate options such as a wifi bridge or powerline ethernet adapter: http://amzn.to/1J1jDBx

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
ahhhh... ok I already had that hooked up from my trial and error
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Ill have to try the bridge thing later... Mainly want to get these speakers hooked up
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Surround back (assignable) are the ports to connect your outside speakers to

then go into the speaker setup menu under amp assign and you'll set it to zone 2

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Please forgive me but can't remember how to get to the speaker setup... can you refresh me
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Grab the denon remote, press receiver, then setup,

scroll down to Manual Setup

under Amp Assign, choose Zone 2 as the selection (enter button)

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
theres no button saying receiver
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

On the top of the denon remote it should say receiver (or amp).

This step is just to put it into receiver control mode (so it isn't trying to control a dvd player or other device )

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
OK i still don't see that but I just hit the button for zone 2 and the outside speakers came on then receiver shut off... Ive turned both inside and outside on but can't figure out how to turn off the inside leaving only the outside on.... now after only 2 or 3 minutes it has shut off again??
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

If it is shutting itself down without you touching anything, then you have something connected wrong - there is a bad speaker/switch, a short in the speakers, you have the volume too high (or too many speakers) or there are some stray speaker wires touching the back.

Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

To have just the outside on, turn z2 power on first, then press MAIN on the remote, then power, and z2 should stay on.

This can also be done easily from the denon remote control app (once you have the network part setup)

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
OK.... Its still shutting off??? I now have the zone 1 and main figured out ...Thanks but its shutting off after a few minutes
Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Di I need to go back and try to set up in the speaker setup menu to change something??
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Is it only on z2 that it shuts down?
Does it happen on main only, or only when both are running together?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
happens either way
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Well there were 3 options there.

Does the main zone work ok all by itself?

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
Ive been using that almost daily since our last conversation... Ididnt realize zone 2 was even functioning till I hit the button trying to figure out which button to get to speaker setup
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Okay, so there is something wrong with the zone 2 wiring it appears.

Double check that the speaker wires for z2 terminals are all securely in the ports. Even a single stray strand of speaker wire that is loose or touching the back of the receiver will cause shutdown and can even fry your receiver.

If still no change, I need more details about your outside speakers: how many, what gauge wire and how long the wires are (estimate is fine) and if there are any external speaker switches/selector boxes, volume control knobs, etc.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
yep there were some fray wires touching backside... however I cut them down and stripped down to be sure no bare wire is exposed outside the terminal...still shutting down :((...... I have 2 outside speakers, not sure of the gauge but its big wire,approximately 30 - 50' from receiver. There are no volume knobs...and I don't have any switch box connected
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Can you check the wiring on the other end (speaker side) to make sure there isn't any stray wires there touching each other or shorting to the speaker terminals?

If they are hard to access, try testing the z2 left and right speakers independently, to isolate which is the problem then you can investigate further.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
checking now
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

Thanks

Customer: replied 11 months ago.
its too dark outside and Im gonna have to try again tomorrow morning when can see better.....its a tight spot...thanks for your help...Merry Christmas
Expert:  Nathan replied 11 months ago.

You're welcome. I'm hopeful you'll find it's just a loose wire somewhere.

If that all checks out, try listening at a very low volume and see if that does any better.