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I have a Yamaha RXV3800, just set up an Apple 3 and find the

 

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I have a Yamaha RXV3800, just set up an Apple 3 and find the HDMI input does not seem to work properly, the Apple is switching through various resolution configurations and the projector I'm using is 1080P ready, video shows occasionally but then the Apple goes on to the next try. I'm wondering is there a firmware update for the Yamaha that remedies hdmi input problems? If so, which one, there are two on the web site. I purchased the Yamaha in 2007. Thank you, Scott

 



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Tried Apple on another set up and it worked fine. Used a Hdmi directly to the projector and it worked fine.

Submitted: 287 days and 18 hours ago.
Category: Home Theater-Stereo
Value: $39
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Expert:  p0llinate replied 287 days and 16 hours ago.


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p0llinate :

This behavior is typically a HDCP issue, caused by the appletv having difficulty communicating with the display (projector in this case) through the receiver. If you plug the atv directly into the projector, do you have any issues?

p0llinate :

If you have found a firmware update, you can try loading the latest release, however there is no guarantee this will help.

p0llinate :

If it does not, but it works directly with the projector, try this:
Power everything off, then restart in a specific order: Projector first, then receiver, then atv.

p0llinate :

If that still doesn't help, your options will be to use hdmi direct to the projector (and optical to yamaha for sound) or to use an edid clone device to trick the apple tv into using hdmi properly. If you need a recommendation for one of these device if it gets to that point, let me know.

Customer :

Hi, Okay, tried all of the above and did not work. When I plugged the atv directly into the projector it cycled through endlessly again, starting with the apple emblem, then cycling, I pressed the up arrow and menu button together and the atv finally stopped at the 720p setting, which is not 1080p, when I scrolled to the auto select or 1080p 60 or 40hz, screen went blue and the cylcing started again. I successfully set up the atv 3 with two other projectors, a more recent panasonic 1080p and an epson, also using a later model of the yamaha. Hmmm, seems apple has some explaining to do on this. What is a edid clone that you recommend to fool the fool of a atv 3? Thank you, scott

p0llinate :

Hi Scott, the atv is a unique device, and as a home theater installer, I see issues like this all the time, which seems to be purely random. I understand your frustration, it drives us installers crazy too.

p0llinate :

Here is the device I mentioned: HDmi Detective Plus

p0llinate :

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Customer :

Okay, thanks, will order and see what happens. I'm out of town for 30 days, so will get back to you once installed at the beginning of August.

Customer :

Okay, thanks, will order this, but out of town for 30 days, so will get back to you once installed at the beginning of August.

Expert TypeEngineer
Category: Home Theater-Stereo
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Accepts: 982
Answered: 7/7/2012

Experience: Custom home theater installer. Authorized dealer top brands

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Customer replied 252 days and 16 hours ago.

Hi,


 


Finally got the items you recommended and tried them, which did not work. I read else where that my HDMI cable connecting to the projector is too long and that I need an amplifier to boost the signal. I got one, but turns out it is designed to boost the signal from the device and that the cable length to the monitor/projector should not be more than a few feet. It still worked, but the screen sometimes flashes because of the distance. Do you know of a HDMI booster that is meant to boost the signal to the monitor/projector? Thank you, Scott

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Expert:  p0llinate replied 251 days and 19 hours ago.

Scott, what you need is an active repeater, there are many on the market that will work. However, if you have one already, I'd suggest you just take it and relocate it to the end near the projector, assuming you already have power at the projector, you should be able to mount the amp to the ceiling above the projector (or zip tie it to the mount bracket, hide it up inside the ceiling, etc). There are also models that recess into a single gang electrical box that can either use a direct hdmi cable, or 1/2 cat5/6 cables for longer lengths.

Customer replied 249 days and 18 hours ago.

Hi, Thanks, should have thought of doing that. Just set it up and even though the situation improved, the picture flashes on a off periodically, enough to be annoying. I'm using the Tripp Lite HDMI Active Extender, B122-000-60. Using the cable tv and dvd player works fine, but they go into the receiver using component. I'm assuming the component set up has a stronger video signal than the HDMI. Anyway, I have another HDMI amplifier/repeater/extender coming and will try it out. Any particular ones that you know of that work in these applications?


Thanks,


Scott

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Expert:  p0llinate replied 249 days and 18 hours ago.

Actually I've had pretty good luck with a cheap ($25ish) powered hdmi splitter (1 in, 2 out, but don't have to use both outputs) from monoprice. It's made to be a splitter, but works well just as an amplifier (and can go on the source end, rather than projector end).

Beyond that, I'd look at getting one of the cat6 cable versions, they are really set up for longer ranges without dropping out. monoprice has some of them as well, but if you go that route, make sure you use cat6 cable, 5 or 5e just don't work well, even if they are rated for it, and use shielded cable if possible.

Customer replied 240 days and 18 hours ago.


Hi again,


 


So the new HDMI repeater made by Btecc for just over $20 seems to be working, will keep the one you recommended in mind for the future, in case this one stops.


 


Thank again for the help.


 


Scott

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Expert:  p0llinate replied 240 days and 18 hours ago.

Thanks for the update Scott, glad to hear it's working so far.

Nathan

 
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