I have a Cat 267B. It will not start with the key. I can crank it by applying 12V to the starter soleniod. After cranking it, everything works fine. I have verified the ignition switch is operating normally. I have also tried disconnecting and jumping out the seat switch. I believe the arm rest switch is working because it does the following:- unplug arm rest sensor - light flashes- raise arm rest with sensor plugged in - light on solid- lower arm rest with sensor plugged in - light goes outThe parking brake light also turns on and off with the switch. I do not know what else is preventing the starter relay from energizing. Do you have a ignition system wiring diagram or testing sequence? I have access to all of the plugs, but I cannot follow the orange start wire from the ignition switch.Thanks,Denny
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The 307 orange wire goes to pin 62 of the interlock ECM on the frame rail. From there the ECM powers the 306 Green wire on pin 64 at the ECM. This wire powers the starter relay. However, before it gets to the relay it changes to an A346 Blue at a harness connector. The A346 blue is the power for the starter relay coil. At the starter relay, when there is power on the blue wire it goes to ground through the coil and closes the magnetic switch in the relay. That allows power to go from the 109 Red to the 304 white that goes to the starter solenoid.
Since the starter works when you power the solenoid, I would work back from there.
I would start at the relay. It is mounted on the left hand wall of the engine compartment. It will have the blue and an orange wire going to the relay coil, a red power supply wire, and the white starter solenoid power wire.
Start by checking power on the red wire, it should have power on it at all times. Then have someone hold the key in the start position and check for power between the blue wire and the orange wire. If this is there, then check for power out on the white.
This should give you a direction to go.
If there is power at the relay on the white, then the wire going to the starter is probably broken.
If there is power at everything else on the relay, but nothing out on the white, then the relay is bad, swap it with the cold start relay that is mounted beside it.
If there is not power between the blue and orange, first make sure the orange shows a good ground. If it does then there is a wiring issue from the ECM to the relay, a wiring issue from the key to the ECM, or the ECM is bad. Check the orange wire at pin 62 at the ECM for power when the key is in the start position and power out on the green at pin 64.
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Sorry for the delay in responding. I found the issue this weekend. It was broken wires near the control box below the floor plan.
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