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Does it look like this.
their is not a loose wire system it is fixed to the solenoid
Ok, do you have the serial number?
to the machine
Have you seen any jumper wires like this picture?
no...its on the other side
The solenoid does not have a jumper wire in it, correct?
you may have me in the right direction, would this shut the fuel off
Not in this picture but, it could have the same jumper wire to change to a different type connector.
#17 in this picture is your solenoid.
yes, this is it
Over the past week I have had a problem starting this machine it has to turn over several times before it starts
Hot or cold, make any difference?
there is also a type of fuel pump with a line from the fuel tank and goes to the fuel filter/pump I pulled the top off and found a round filter inside. the filter was full of junk I cleaned it and primed the system..still not working
The wires on the solenoid are, A309-EA15 is a GREY wire that sends power to the solenoid and the black wire 200-EA24 is the ground.
Is it the transfer pump?
could be, that is correct on the solenoid, it has 12 volts when i turn the ignition on
I just found it in the parts book, this machine does not have an electric transfer pump. I think you were on the water separator.
There have been isolated issues with the(NNN) NNN-NNNNFuel Transfer Pump As on certain C1.1, C1.5 and C2.2 engines. The issues have caused difficult starting or a loss of power.
Leaks on the fuel transfer pump from the top cap seal, the diaphragm or the oil seal have been identified as a significant contributor to the issue.
Changes to the manufacturing process of the fuel transfer pump have significantly improved the capability of the seals. Changes to materials have significantly improved the durability of the parts.
The part number of the fuel transfer pump will not change.
Your serial number is XXXXX this group, this could be your problem.
Since you said trash was found, here is another problem you may need to address.
Debris in the fuel transfer pump has been identified as a significant contributor to the issue.
A 1G-7206 Fuel Filter has been introduced to Skid Steer Loaders and Multi Terrain Loaders in order to prevent debris that is no greater than 100 microns from entering the fuel transfer pump.
something has the fuel off, there is no fuel pumping to the injectors.
when i pump the self primer, I broke the line to the injector pump and I get fuel.
The 1G-7206 filter should be in-line between the fuel tank and the transfer pump.
do you have a picture
Click here, FILTER item #.
its a big picture but i see the transfer pump
Have you check the pressure from the transfer pump while cranking?
I guess my question is could the solenoid not be working and shut the fuel off
Do you get any smoke while cranking?
Yes, the solenoid might not be working. Test the fuel pressure by installing an automotive type pressure guage. If it will make 5-10 psi in 10 seconds of cranking, the transfer pump is normal. Try removing the solenoid and test is in your hand see if the key switch is moving the plunger. If it is, install it only a few threads and start the engine. screw it in the rest of the way to shutoff the engine. DO NOT RUN ENGINE WITHOUT THE SOLENOID MORE THAN A FEW SECONDS, IT MAY SPRAY FUEL OUT OF THE THREADED AREA.
where do u hook it up
the pressure guage
Install it "deadhead", directly into the line from the transfer pump. Crank the engine, the pump will not be damaged.
ok i will try this
If the solenoid is working, you may have an internal failure in the fuel injection pump. I would not recommend you work on this unless you have fuel system training.
(NNN) NNN-NNNNis the solenoid part number.