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I was watching an award show on tv and focused on someones belt then when the camera moved it went out of view to another person. If I felt anxious in the chest when the belt went out of view was this just a nervous impulse and did watching that belt go out of view affect the heart or is vision and heart separate again in this case too? Thank you again
thank you Dr Bray
so that was more of a nervous flutter and not the heart
I thought that if I saw the belt go out of view it may have caused my heart rate to increase but this was just anxiety reaction
So anytime I fixate on something on tv from my ocd then it goes to another picture the feeling in my chest is a nervous reaction and not the heart being affected at all?
Hello Dr Bray today my psychiatrist switched me over to Paxil and took me off Remeron and increased Abilify to 10. I met my parents for lunch however I had anxiety about going in to eat with them because of the crowds. My ocd today involved letting go of a credit card or car keys once they are in my pocket. My OCD kept saying that this will somehow affect the heart bad if I let go of them in my pocket. After I ate I became sluggish and feel like I am going to sleep with no energy. Did the anxiety make me feel like this or is something else physically going on with me? I am home now and feel like I am not all here like I am going to fall asleep or pass out? My heart was racing a bit as I walked up the stairs to my condo. I just do not feel right and am not sure what to do?
hi Dr Bray
my blood pressure was 100/74 and pulse was 112
I just don't know why I feel so energyless and I broke down crying when I got in my place
I feel like my time is running out from battling this anxiety and ocd and I feel like I am letting everyone that loves me down
I get so scared when my heart races from anxiety that I can't focus on what is happening now
I feel like if I just lay down in bed I am throwing in the towel
I am scared and feel like each day is a new problem
I feel like this is robbing me of my life
I can't stop crying
my psychiatrist just seems to keep trying news meds
should I start taking the Paxil now to calm down?
I just picked it up on my way home
There is no reason to go to the emergency room?
so is there hope for me
maybe I should just rest for a bit then work on the cbt worksheets
and take the paxil
Thanks for being here for me Dr Bray again I should not worry about the heart at all?
Thank you Dr Bray I will keep you posted
Hi Dr Bray this morning I was up every hour since 2 a.m. and constantly had OCD of staring at my digital alarm clocks. My heart was beating at a steady pace and again I made the false association that staring at the alarm clocks then looking away somehow adversely affected the heart which I know is false. I was very sluggish at work in the morning and I paged my psychiatrist and he had me cut the dosage of Paxil in half so I am only going to be on 5 mg along with the 10 mg of Abilify. I am going to work on my CBT work also more. Could the staring be more of an eye issue than OCD? I am overdue for an eye exam. Would I be better off going to an Optometrist or Optamologist? As far as the waking up earlier this morning and staring at the digital clocks could that have been a readjustment to the medication and it made my OCD flare up? Thanks Dr Bray
Hi Dr Bray
I had another tough day battling OCD anxiety. The side effects from the Paxil got very bad and my psychiatrist told me to stop taking it and just take 10 mg of Abilify only. I really do not understand what he is doing but I am losing faith in his ability to help me in my struggle.
My OCD acted up with touching the steering wheel with my left hand however I only allowed myself to grip it four times before I proceeded out of my car. When I do that my anxiety makes me think false thoughts that if I do not touch the wheel enough that will effect my heart that is false again right? These thoughts are so provoking they make me think something is wrong with my heart. My blood pressure was 111/76 with a pulse rate of 105. Should I be worried that is too low? I have felt like I have no energy these past three days at work but this is not related to the heart regarding the fatigue? Thank Dr Bray
Thank you Dr Bray I had an idea to battle that particular heart worry with scientific logic. Is there something I could tell myself that by either gripping holding touching or setting objects up and down on a surface have no effect on the heart because they are functioning in a different body system. Like for example when I feel the urge to keep gripping the top of the steering wheel because of the false worry it may affect my heart what could I tell myself to combat that worry and thought? Maybe I just need a certain reality formula to help push these heart worries away?
Today I was able to go to the show with my friend. However I felt some anxiety because the seats were close. Again staring at an actors face on the screen and when it changes frames has no effect on the heart because heart and vision are separate functions? Sorry to ask again. Could the withdrawals be incorporated to feeling more anxiety with the absence of the other medications and just the Abilify? It seems like if its not the staring then its the obsessive touching which again have no effect on the heart? I am going to get some kind of a stone which reminds myself that the heart is fine and is it okay to keep telling myself that the heart functions by itself without any concern or worry? What would be a good key phrase to let the body
Thanks Dr Bray also I forgot to mention when I cover the bottom of the cat litter box with a plastic bag I get worried when the center circle goes out of view again no effect on the heart and should I just try to ignore the circle when placing the bag over it?
I am going to see my psychologist this afternoon. As I was putting the cord to the vaccum on the hanger I kept thinking that somehow that was going to affect my heart. When these thoughts pop in my head about the heart being affected negatively by touching or handling something tangible should I continue to ignore them? Basically no kind of touching or looking or any kind of movement will harm the heart? That is what I have to keep telling myself any other advice where I can just know that the heart works separately from these actions?
Hi Dr Bray earlier this evening I was placing my work bag which has cloth handles in my car however I began to obsess and kept gripping the handles lightly with my right hand then squeezing my left hand to feel my pulse. I limited the amount of time doing this but even though the heart was beating fast by doing this motion there was no correlation to the heart being harmed or its rhythm being affected by my repeated gripping the handles? Sorry to ask this again but it seems like this is a vicious cycle and happens in similar instances. Am I better off to just leave the handles alone once the bag is set down rather then retouch even though my heart was beating faster?
Thank you Dr Bray so the handle gripping and squeezing my left hand to check the pulse has no correlation as we discussed before. If my heart seemed to be beating faster is that just from the anxiety and not to worry about the action of gripping the handles affected them?
Hi Dr Bray I have a certain OCD issue that involves staring at the clothing label tag on shirts and shorts and for some reason I have a hard time looking away from the tag once I start looking at it on the clothing. My therapist just says to read it once then look away but for some reason I get tensed up when I pull away from looking at it. Is there another method I can use? Also in regards XXXXX XXXXX things I am trying to use reverse psychology and say I will touch this only a certain number of times and it cannot hurt my heart because movement is exercise and good for the heart but I will no keep doing this. I have applied this to not getting caught up staring in the car. Again its safe for the heart because vision and heart are always separate? Thanks Dr Bray
Hi Dr Bray today I spoke with my psychiatrist and prescribed 25mg of Anafrel I think I misspelled for my OCD. However I had my moments today of setting down objects like pens and blood pressure machine but I kept telling myself that this does not affect the heart. One issue with staring that bothered me was when I pulled in my parking spot my car faces the opposite building and again the same old anxiety kicked in where it questioned whether I keep facing the building for a certain period of time would that affect the heart but I used logic and said this cannot affect the heart. Is trying not to focus on something like that building for example and just moving away safe to do when it comes to avoiding the staring of that object? Thank you Dr Bray
Thanks again Dr Bray so in this case when I turned away to walk away from the building that my car was facing and I was looking at in my car was the best thing to do to avoid more OCD staring and the feeling is harmless?
Hi Dr Bray yesterday and today my OCD acted up involving repeatedly picking up and setting down a particular pen. I eventually used logic and stopped the behavior earlier this afternoon with the help self talk from my friend at work. Even though heart functions separate from vision function I find myself staring at hyphens when I am reading text on my cell phone or computer so even if the heart is beating fast that is only from anxiety and not making myself look away from the hyphen which for some reason drives my OCD up? If I find myself beginning to stare or touch something more than once am I better off moving away immediately to avoid the OCD behavior patterns? thanks again Dr Bray
Hello Dr Bray
Lately when I keep entering the door to my condo building I feel a sense of heart palpatations like its almost like asthma when I enter the building and I hesitate going up the stairs because then my anxiety kicks in. Could this be more of a panic attack symptom then anxiety? Also I know vision does not affect the heart but if my anxiety thoughts make me think that staring at a semicolon or colon symbol on paper or computer can affect the heart should I just ignore it? Sorry to sound crazy but the thoughts on the heart just seem to keep finding a way to bother me.
Thank you Dr Bray so any kind of staring at a sign or imprint label on my scale at work which I try to walk away from has no impact on the heart function and it is best that I move away quickly and divert my attention? So basically the panic could be causing the slight palpatations I get and i notice I get them when it is warm outside or humid when it is cool I do not get them so I am wondering if this could even be my mild asthma acting up? So to battle this anxiety of staring and touching objects it is best to just walk away from what I was staring at or touching and do something else so as not to prolong the OCD activity. As far as the thoughts go during these episodes even if the thoughts tell me my heart is not beating right I can ignore these because they are false as well? thank you again
Yes >> with the OCD obsessions whether it is something visual or physical that you touch it is best to try to break away from the object sooner vs later.
Whatever technique of breaking free from an obsessive thought pattern that works BEST FOR YOU is FINE!! Break away immediately or close eyes and count to three for example >> try to recognize a troubling patern and break free...
Right on the thoughts with regard to your heart. Se at this point in your life we know based on your tests that your heart is finme but your mind is hardwired convinced otherwise!! So for the next ten years do not worry about your heart is my advice...(beyond ten years maybe your heart might need to be checked again is my logic here...) WE KNOW THAT THE HEART OF YOUR OCD IS HEALTH WORRY >>>SPECIFICALLY THINGS AFFECTING YOUR HEART ... so with this condition I know that you are hyper-sensitized to feeling for your heart >> you need to quit this behavior... you need to work on reprogrammming your thought process to the point that you are not constantly worried about something affecting your heart!! It is a difficult process. This is the crux of what you need to accomplish to have a happy , worry free and productive life though >> your problem is not your heart or even asthma so much as it is the OCD !!
Now as for asthma I do not know your history of this. If you have asthma then this may cause of course cough, wheezing, tightness in the chest and shortness of breath. If you have trouble with these symptoms then do what you need to do. Use your inhaler or go see the doctor if you should have concerns or problems with your sense of breathing...
At this time I do advise you to ignore tyour heart< palpitations or racing of the heart. Try not to check your pulse... thse steps should gradually over time be a helpful addition to your overall treatment plan to help settle the OCD of the heart....
I hope this helps! Please let me know if you have further questions! I will be happy to get back with you!!
Have a great fourth!! Best Regards!!
Anthony Bray MD
Hello Dr. Bray today I had a problem looking at the price logo on my counter scale at work and also at a poster map on the wall looking at the headline. Even though my heart was beating a little faster from the staring I tried very hard not to continue to look at these and when I did I would glance then walk away. Is looking away and ignoring completely safe to do since vision function is separate from the heart even though the anxiety is making my heart beat fast? Thanks again
Thank you so much so even forcing myself not to look at these objects by moving away is probably the best thing to do when the staring starts to take place from the OCD?
Last question for the day I promise if I felt my pulse in my left hand while watching subtitles fade on tv intro program does that have any effect on heart?
Hi Dr Bray today I had a rough day dealing with trying not to stare at the price symbol on the counter scale as well as a country map title on the wall to the left of the work counter. Again I know the heart function is separate from the vision function but the OCD makes me think that if I do not look away from either of these things a certain way it will affect my heart. My pulse which I try not to check was running fast during these episodes as well. So there is no harm looking, looking away in the opposite direction or ignoring these two items which keep flaring up my OCD? I am overweight and I was lifting a bucket of water from the ground and felt like the blood rushed up to my head and felt a little nervousness. Was that from anxiety most likely and nothing to worry about the heart in that situation of bending over and lifting the bucket back up? Thank you for helping me. I am really trying hard to nip this OCD but when I get the fast heart rate during these staring episodes I have a hard time not breaking free from it. Any other suggestions as to how I may go about avoiding the staring at these two objects?
Hi Dr Bray last night I was watching a program and my heart rate was up a bit however when I stared at one of the actors eye brows the screen panned to the next actor I know this sounds crazy but when I feel a nervous sensation is that strictly anxiety and not affecting the heart function because vision is separate from that? Also I noticed I really need to loose weight when I was lifting the 40 lb bag of cat litter I noticed my heart rate was up a bit as well. I am 5'8" and weigh 245 lbs
Hello Dr Bray I am having a hard time this week with holding onto and setting down certain objects like my cell phone with the false thoughts that it will affect my heart. Am I best off not repeating the action and just set it down once and leave it be even if I have the urge to repeat it from the OCD? Also as I was closing the plastic lid to the garbage dumpster I touched it a few more times and felt my heart was beating a little faster than normal but that was probably only from the exertion from dumping the can? Also I tend to grip the steering wheel a certain number of times before I exit the car. Even if I have the urge to go back and grip the steering wheel am I better off not doing that to break the behavior? My pulse rate seems to stay around 118 however my blood pressure is around 120/80
Thank you for all your help just one more question I had regarding watching tv program. When the camera panned from the curtains on the building from left to right where you could not see them anymore from the camera angle does that affect anything or is it just my anxiety imagination? again heart function and vision function are completely separate always?
It was just your imagination. Your heart would not be affected by what you could see on the camera...
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions! Best regards,
Hello Dr Bray my anxiety over the heart has been very bad this week. I am trying to use the skills to fight back but the thoughts about my heart keep getting stronger. There is no way that a negative thought saying your heart beating will be affected or not work right can have any real impact on the heart function? Also the repeated touching cannot harm the heart as well? Sorry to ask some of these same questions but I keep getting stuck and it makes me feel numb and lethargic. I am considering switching psychiatrists as well since I have not really felt this one has been helping me get better soon as well as the CBT therapist. My fear now is by these OCD thoughts can hurt the heart? Also can listening too carefully to your heart beat harm anything as well? thank you
Thank you Dr Bray I forgot to mention that as I was trying to stop an OCD action of picking up an empty granola box and setting it down repeatedely I began to listen to my heart beat in my chest then it was loud then quietly. There is no harm in doing this however its probably best that I do not do this as well as not check my pulse by squeezing my left hand as well?
Hello Dr Bray this week was a struggle dealing with the ocd thoughts about the heart and the repetitive touching of certain objects. I know I have asked this many times but even if you look at something like a pen that has writing on two different sides and you turn it only seeing one side and not the other has no effect on the heart even though the anxiety may cause the heart to beat a little faster. Vision again is still separate in that instance of the pen. Also in my car I started to touch the buttons on the drivers side door window controls and the thought of cardiac problem came into my head for no reason so I ignored the thought and stopped touching the buttons and got out of the car. Sorry I keep getting attacked by these ocd thoughts and obsessions. If I immediately stop the touching or staring is that safe to do even though the feelings tell me falsely otherwise? Thank you
Hello Dr Bray two things have been bothering me today. The first is if I stop looking at I PASS box on my friends windshield will that affect anything or is that just anxiety OCD again? Also I keep touching the inside seam of my underwear boxers not to sound crazy but if I just stop doing this also will that affect anything as well? Sorry to ask these crazy ocd issues but they have been bugging me bad today.
Thank you Dr Bray so none of these things affect the heart?
Thanks dr bray it seems after I eat my heart beats a little faster but could I be overanalyzing this and it could be anxiety? Also as I was watching a program I tend to focus on the medalion around this actors neck and when the screen changes I worry if that affects the heart? Is this just the same old worries that cannot affect the heart? And nothing including on tv focusing can affect the function of the heart? thank you again
Hello Dr I had some anxiety issue walking into my condo earlier this evening. As I walked away from my car I felt that if I did not look back so many times at my car that would affect the heart. Also after I looked back out the corridor window at my car I hesitated turning away for the same fear however I focused on something else and slowly turned away and walked up the stairs. Did any of this have any bad affect on the heart even though it was beating a little faster or was this just OCD and I should stop it.
Thank you so much so basically it makes no difference to the heart whether I look back or do not look back when turning away from my car to go into the building or look back out the corridor window at the car then turn around and go up the stairs? It was just anxiety causing the heart to beat fast
Hello Dr Bray today I had an OCD episode this morning with looking at a sign the said propane tank refill that was red on the side of the building next to the McDonalds drive thru. I pulled my car in front of the sign and said to myself I am only going to look at this sign four times then pull away and not look back and I did not look back. Again as we talked about yesterday am I better off just ignoring whatever becomes the obsession before it becomes a staring routine? Did I do any better this time? I was so tempted to go back after work and look at that sign again but I did not and headed home and am going to try and move on from this and just ignore the sign if I see it again there tomorrow while getting coffee. Also I began touching plastic wrapper and threw it down so as not to obsessively touch it. Could the medicine combined with the CBT finally begin working? Now how can I stop the heart thoughts?
Today my OCD acted up later in the day consisting of continued touching door knobs with my entire hand like a clutch then releasing it with my right hand then squeezing my left hand to feel my pulse. Also I kept clutching the top part of the steering wheel in my car with my left hand before I exited the car. Are any of these harmful to the heart or is this just OCD and I should just try not to worry and keep repeating them? Sorry to ask again if the heart is safe and is it because it is functioning under a different system then when I use my hands like I described? I promise to give you a big bonus my paypal was hacked so please do not think I have forgotten to rate you excellent! Thank you for helping me.
Thank you Dr Bray also the squeezing of the door knobs is not harmful as well as with the steering wheel? I tried the counting to four then stopping but I should definitely stop checking the pulse in my left hand because that is what was making it worse. Basically the heart functions normally during these events I am trying to lessen?
Good morning Dr Bray last night my heart was beating a little faster after eating and I became nervous about setting down a glass on the counter because my heart was beating fast. I eventually did but did the hesitating do any harm or was it just anxiety? So this movement of setting the glass or cup down on the counter has no harm to heart function? thank you again
Right, the moving of the glass to set it down had no effect on your heart. The heart may beat a bit faster after eating because more blood flows to the digestive tract. This may slightly increase the demand on the heart but that is fine>> not a problem!
So you are fine! Try to relax with regard to your heart!
thanks Dr Bray so the motion of setting a glass down has no relevance to the heart function even if my anxiety falsely makes me hesitate? thank you so much
Right >> the motion of of setting down the glass has no relevance to your heart function. Your anxiety leads you have these false fears with regard to your heart.
Hi Dr Bray I keep having the ocd problem of turning a gillete razor back upwards and backside then setting it down and picking it up and repeating the same motion. Again this has no bearing on the heart function? And should I try to ignore the razor after I set it down? Thank you so much
My OCD acted up again earlier this afternoon with fear of setting down my cell phone plugged into the charger and walking away. I kept on lifting it up and setting it down with false fears telling me that it would affect my heart. Also when I touched the side of the cell phone repeatedly I felt a weird sensation in my face but could that have just been anxiety again? I know this logically cannot affect the heart but why does the OCD keep telling me it does? Thank you so much
Hi Dr Bray when I start the staring at whatever object or letter catches my eyes am I best to move away from it quickly so as to stop the OCD behavior? I am trying hard to accomplish this but I keep getting stuck. Am I best to stop once and not go and look back again? Thank you
Hello Dr Bray I became nervous with anxiety before getting out of my car and started squeezing the steering wheel with my left and right hands but this time I counted in fours so as not to drag out the OCD behavior. This again has no impact on my heart by that action? Also I split the dosage of Anafranil to 25 mg in morning and 25 mg before bed and I think that helped today deal with the OCD staring and touching.
Thank you so much Dr Bray does the same apply to if I was squeezing the arm rests on the desk chair that are hard plastic again no effect on the heart and should I continue with the counting to stop the action sooner?
YES >> the same would apply to squeezing arm rests >> this would not harm your heart at all!!
Sure if the counting technique is helpful for you then by all means take advantage of it!
I hope this helps. Take Care,
Can looking at water cooler knobs red and blue then walking away affect anything and heart is totally safe? just ocd
NO >> Looking at water cooler knobs (red and blue) and then walking away would absolutely no adverse effect on your heart! Your heart is fine!!
Try to relax!! Take Care,
Hello Dr Bray sorry to ask a similar question but after I had gotten out of the minute clinic today because of a cat scratch wound on my hand from yesterday. I kept looking at the wall sign that said Facial Tissue in the pharmacy department. I squeezed my left hand to feel my pulse and again the false thoughts about if I do not look at that particular sign enough it will somehow affect my heart. I did my best not to stare at it. Again even the nervous impulse to stare and not to stare at that sign has no impact on the heart function? Thank you Dr Bray
Thank you Dr Bray and I will pay additional I promise just one more thing with the looking at and looking away at sign on the wall does the nervous impulse or hesitation do anything and should I keep telling myself heart is safe and separate from the vision like this?
Hello Dr Bray I waiting for my paypal to transfer so I can give you a bonus on here I did not forget. Today I became nervous in the car and started touching the rear view mirror repeatedely and also I kept staring at one of the engine temperature gages on the dashboard. I used my skills to count but my heart was beating fast and those same lousy thoughts kept hitting me again. And again no harm is done to heart by either touching or staring in this manner but how can I break free from that small space when both of the OCD obsessions occur at same time? Thank you and sorry to ask again