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Yes, while you sleep as acid travels up the throat this can cause irritation which would cause all of those symptoms.
Have you been examined by your Doctor and told you have Gastric Reflux?
This isnt so much when im sleeping, but a couple hours after eating i get a very thick, horse or frog in throat feeling behind my tongue and kinda around my jaw. Sometimes worse then others, sometimes its a soreness, othertimes a cottony feeling. Like right now, having eaten 2 hours ago, i have some sore, horesness. I have not been diagnosed yet with anything, but suspect that could be the cause. Or maybe some kind of allergies, which was my other concern as I have been dealing with an allergy diagnosis recently to certain foods. Does this sound more reflux or allergy related to you? Thanks
Allergies can also cause this kind of feeling, but generally a food allergy will surface sooner... often within minutes of eating the food you are sensitive to.
hmm, and then it passes?
Reflux is more consistent with the 2 hour time frame
is either dangerious
what did you eat today before this happened?
split pea soup, chicken and ham lunchmeat
i had this morning also, after eating a banana, but that came on sooner, around 20 min after eating it
nw its more scratchy and horse, less thick, but this morning it was more thick and cottony feeling
There are different levels of sensitivity to foods... some can be life threatening, most are annoying. Gastric reflux can erode the esophagus and cause disease that can become serious.
Split pea soup is very gassy,.... this would cause reflux to be active in a susceptible person.
i never had food allergies, but a month ago I had hives, so i was given steroids, benadryl and zantac, durring this medicine was the first time i got the aweful thick cottony feeling in my throat, but ive had it ever sense at different times after eating or times.
I would ask that you see your Doctor, tell him/her what is going on... you may need a referral to see a Gastroenterologist, who would be able to either confirm or rule out reflux.
i see but it doesnt sound like allergic reaction to you at this moment, more reflux
How much water do you drink a day? Is your saliva generally thick?
i have been drinking a ton, it tends to help a little
I think it sounds more reflux related, yes
maybe 9 bottles a day
when did you finish the prednisone?
about 3.5 weeks ago, i hated it, i felt it made me feel crazy and prone to panic
heart racing, and moody and anxiety ridden
yes, unfortunately some people do react to prednisone in this way.
Do you have a tendency to worry?
so i followed up after with an allergy doc, who ordered a bunch of blood work and it came back with positives to various foods, and now I have to see him again. I have never had allergies. So now im sensative to allergy related concerns, although I have trouble believing the results, as it listed positives to things like wheat, soy, and peanuts, things ive eaten my whole life and large amounts with no known issues
you know.... it's possible that you have a bit of anxiety causing these or worsening these symptoms.
yes, i am very anxiety ridden by nature, and prone to hypochondria I should warn you
The way allergies works is a bit complex...
yes, i have trouble discerning real symptoms from false ones, i recognize that. Still it tough, i know these feelinjgs are there
so im never sure when to ignore and get on with life, and when to worry legitimately
we can be allergic to something and not know it for years and years... because on a microbiological level.. we have many receptor sites which permit us to consume or be exposed to the allergen. Once these receptor cites are filled, we will begin to display an allergic reaction.
I am sorry you are going through this kind of torment. I want to give you some info on anxiety... ok?
i welome it
any and all info
Being acutely aware of your body and the most subtle changes, such as an increase in heart rate, can be a catalyst for anxiety...causing your body to shoot out adrenaline which can lead to some or all of these symptoms:
Chest pain , tightness or discomfort
Fear of dying
Fear of losing control
Tremors Dizziness or feeling like you might pass out
Nausea Numbness or tingling in the hands, feet, or face Palpitations
Fast heart rate
Shortness of breath
Feeling like you are choking
Feeling detached or disconnected from reality Feelings of impending doom
For example.. you bend over to pick something up…. Your heart rate goes up.. you become aware of it and become anxious …now starts the barrage of symptoms and a full blown panic attack. Your body is producing adrenaline and the symptoms keep on coming…
The single most important thing to remember is that THIS CAN NOT HARM YOU. It’s just the adrenaline ….. and it WILL pass.
The scary thing about Anxiety is that it can seem to come out of nowhere.. without a concrete cause that you can pinpoint. Anxiety can cause alterations in breathing patterns and it may be that you are holding your breath or breathing too rapidly which can cause fatigue and the symptoms you are experiencing. There is something you can do right now to stop it..... initiate proper breathing. You can help alleviate the feeling of throat tightness, panic and and shortness of breath by changing your breathing pattern to abdominal breathing. To abdominal breathe ( which is a much more effective breathing technique) place one hand on your abdomen and one hand on your chest... watch to see which rises. It should be the abdomen, NOT the chest.Practice breathing using your abdominal muscles... (to breathe with chest muscles causes fatique and more shortness of breath) by taking in a deep breath through your nose.. making sure only the hand on your abdomen moves, slowly.. and exhale slowly through the mouth.. your abdomen should flatten with exhalation. Do this three breaths at a time. Breathing correctly will immediately eliminate anxiety...., every time. If it comes back do it again. Here is an excellent link to read more about anxiety:
Consider taking extra hydration ( atleast 8 glasses of water per day), this will help as well as de-stressing through the use of biofeedback and relaxation techniques ,
definitely plan to get adequate sleep. Sleeping is so important for over all well being.
Here is an interesting article and video:
This article explains why incorrect breathing causes anxiety symptoms:
Also look for EASY CALM by John Mercer video series on youtube.. John Mercer has some excellent techniques.
Thanks you very much, this is all helpful and non invasive and potentially verybenificial
Anxiety can take you right over the edge... you can go from oh oh...is this an allergy to OMG I am going to die. This is what anxiety does. You really really can stop it:-)
I am prone to thise
The very best thing you can do when it starts is the breathing...
although I think real symptoms are mixed in, which complicates things
and telling yourself... I have done this a million times before, it has never hurt me, it never will. I am FINE. and every time that scary thought comes back... do it again.
you surely have real symptoms
but anxiety compounds it greatly.
i think you are right on
Did you know that when you become anxious your gastric juices increase?
oh man, just what i need
this can make reflux worse.
what a cycle
naaaaaaa.... you can control it..start today:-)
so you are leaning towards heartburn mixed with anxiety making everything amplified and wworse
Yes. A very wise Doctor once told me that it's often a vicious circle--hyperventilation--alkaline pH--chest tightness--"oh, God is this a heart attack"?--faster breathing, and on and on.
you'll notice that when you get busy doing something the symptoms will improve.
See your Doctor so he can diagnose and treat the underlying physical proble, which is likely gastric reflux.
I H ope I have helped you today.
( and I hope I can type better soon) lol
hah, thanks you. I must admit, one last thing, I have reoccuring stomach ailments, and I have avoided the tests for I hate the idea of them, the cat scans with dyes and drinking things, the endoscopy procedures terrify me.
So what again makes you suspect reflux and not allergy, just curious
Tell them you don't want to have dye... lots of people refuse it. Yes, dye is more conclusive... but it can be done without.
And endoscopy is really not bad at all
you are asleep and it's quick.
I have had it done.. and I've watched it being done.
that does help
but I do understand your fears.
You CAN have a ct scan without contrast.
so why do you suspect relfux and not allergy
because the symptoms of a food allergy are usually more immediate.
thank you very much. besides time frame are there any other tell tale signs of allergy verses gerd
You can avoid all tests for now by process of elimination in your diet
what should i avoid
an allergy to a food will cause an itchy tingly feeling in your throat and tongue
i am already trying to modify my diet based on the test results
what did your results say
hmm, i do feel that sometimes as well, but again what is in my head verses reality, who knows
its all kinda of subjective, i can always swallow, breath, talk, etc...
the doctor looked in my throat before and said it looked ok, but who knows
the results said, peanuts, soy, wheat, almonds, lemons, apples, were all a problem
then use this as your guideline... can I breathe..yes, can I swallow, yes, can I talk, yes.. ok, I"m good:-) and REALLY believe that.
which shocked me
what was the level of allergy?
is that a safe philosphy
did it say mild...moderate...?
it is a VERY safe and very effective philosophy
coupe were mild, couple were moderate, peanuts, soy, wheat, lemon, all moderate
ok... try to avoid the moderates... the milds probably won't cause any reaction at all
i worry this cottony feeling, is swelling and itchyness and I will suffocate and die from a reaction
but i know now like you said, probably its reflux
and even then, aplified by my anxieties
there is a lot of substitute grains available these days. Go to a health food store and look for Gluten Free foods.. you will be amazed. The best gluten free breat, in my opinion, is millet and flax.. tastes really good.
oh god no... you will NOT
but its an uncomfortable feeling and stressful
you will feel much better knowing you are avoiding the foods that you have a moderate allergy to.
yes I am sure that it is
40 years i have never had a serious allergic reaction, unless you count the hives, but now i worry about it
people that have these issues are managed best by avoiding triggers.
but then again, if its heartburn, that is better, but also concerning
and you know what... I will be the hives weren't from food.
could have been ANYTHING
i appreciate all your time
you are very welcome:-)
so its a coincidense that i got all the hives and those foods showed up on my blood work
so why hives at that moment?
do you know dermatologists see more cases of hives that they can not trace to a cause? this is true.
i stil get some pink patches even now, a month after the outbreak
subtle, not nearly like before, they tend to come and then go away
could have been a soap... a perfume... something in the environment.. plants... cat dander.... any number of things.
do you have pets?
i have one cat
but thats off the table, i cant get rid of her
I TOTALLY understand
you don't have to
but you might have to take an antihistamine...or put up with the symptoms... if they are mild.
remember what I told you about receptor sites getting filled?
can I ask one question about serious throat swelling, tingling, itching, etc... would that come on suddenly and be serious and combined with other things? or could it happen over hours, etc...
you can have a cat for years and years... and then suddenly seem to develop an allergy.
the great news is most people will eventually stop reacting to the allergen
( some won't)
Ask to be tested for cat dander...just so you'll know
if this is a factor or not
i think that was on there, actually, it was a mild positive, like slightly over the number it should be
but he didnt list it as a concern
he just listed all those foods
None of the items were severe... so this is a very good thing. Do try to avoid the moderates and see if you improve.
An air purifier for the bedroom would help tremendously if the kitty is part of the problem. Walmart has some inexpensive models.. but the best and most effective are the ones made by a company called Austin Air. here is alink to their products for your review:
People with severe allergies do well with them... so if your's is mild it would be great for you.
ok, thanks. lots of great info. So once again, you suspect gerd though more then allergy related tongue or throat swelling
yes I really do.
and probably exagerated by the steroid, and my anxieties in general
i am schedualed with a therapist to discuss anxiety and OCD
thanks again, for your time, I will let you go now
i know I hogged your time
hopefully I can get better, and i dont die from allergies or heartburn related issues!
I am glad to hear that..... you could really benefit from some cognitive behavioral therapy... this is a talk therapy that will help you to overcome feelings of anxiety.