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I was planning to do some geoCaching this weekend and I've

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Hey,
I was planning to do some geoCaching this weekend and I've been trying whole afternoon to get the geoCaches on my gps. I'm using the software provided by garmin (and it's up to date) and I have a Garmin Oregon 600t. The caches show up on my gps, but as a waypoint, not as a geoCache. I'm using BaseCamp on my pc and there is does show up as a geoCache. What do I need to do to get the caches as geoCaches on my gps?
Thx!
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: GPS
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hello & Welcome to Just Answer,

Sorry I didn't see your question earlier and to hear of the trouble you are having.

May I ask what "software provided by garmin" you are trying to use to get the geocaches onto your device?

Is it only the BaseCamp program?

If so, that program is not really intended to send geocaches to the device EXCEPT as a waypoint.

What MAY be a better way to do this is to get & use a geocaching.com account - starting with a free account - and use that program/site to load a few geocaches into the device from there.

https://www.geocaching.com

NOTE: The issue with BaseCamp is that it can DISPLAY the geocaches just fine, but it can not write the file to the device in a proper "geocache format" - so that the device understands it is a geocache.

Please give that site a try and let me know your results.

Thanks, ***** *****

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I am using, the site geocaching.com to find geocaches and by the program Garmin communicator I send the gpx files to my gps.
Afterwards I cannot see any of the gpx files on my gps, instead of a geocache I see a sort of waypoint
When I connect my Gps to the program basecamp, I can all the geocaches.(in basecamp)
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The problem is with my gps.I reset him already to the first start, he was as new, it was a mesure for nothing.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It worked before, I have loaded some months ago at the same way and this one's I can still see as a geocache.
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again and thanks for that information.

OK - may I ask the AGE of the device and WHEN you purchased it?

Also, you mentioned "updating software" - was that the device software or software for your computer?

One other thing: The geocaches loaded in the past - are those the ones you CAN still see, but NOT the new ones?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
may I ask the AGE of the device and WHEN you purchased it --- less than two years agoAlso, you mentioned "updating software" - was that the device software or software for your computer? ---- bothThe geocaches loaded in the past - are those the ones you CAN still see, but NOT the new ones? --- correct
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again,

OK - it sounds like the NEW geocaches are not being written to the device correctly - for some reason.

May I ask if you saw ANY error or warning messages when you tried the transfer?

Also, did you do the transfer(s) DIRECTLY to the device, or download them to the computer first, then try to transfer them?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
May I ask if you saw ANY error or warning messages when you tried the transfer? ---- no errorsAlso, did you do the transfer(s) DIRECTLY to the device, or download them to the computer first, then try to transfer them?
I tried the both ways and I tried first on a PC and afterwards on the laptop, same result.I did the same thing (way) as two months ago. afterwards I update everything, thinking that this was the problem, software to old.
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

OK - to almost sounds like the NEW geocaches that are being downloaded are not complete (since they show up as waypoints).

May I ask if you can actually LOOK AT (in a text editor) the geocaches you downloaded recently - and in the past (if you still have them on your computer)?

One other thing: Have you installed a microSD card in the device yet? I only ask because I'm considering "memory issues".

Thanks

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
One other thing: Have you installed a microSD card in the device yet? -- I have, but I tried already whitout the card, so that is not the problem.OK - to almost sounds like the NEW geocaches that are being downloaded are not complete (since they show up as waypoints). -- yes and no, by the program basecamp I can read the geocaches completely. Even when I switch to another PC or laptop. In the basecamp program, I can read what stands on my GPS.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
see print screen
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again,

RE - the microSD card: MOST Garmin devices use the memory cards to store maps of some kind, and other data. BUT often the calculations and storage of things like a "track log", waypoints, and even geocaches is ONLY done in the INTERNAL memory of the device. So the internal memory could be "getting full" and causing this kind of thing.

Let's see if we can clear the TRACK LOG (holds the most information) to free up some space.

NOTE - thanks for the image, but unfortunately I do not speak (or read) that language (German/Dutch?).

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It is dutch, but is only to show you that there is a geocache on my device.It is not the space, I have more than 700 mb free space on my device and more that 5 GB on my memory card.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
see scan
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again,

Is the geocache screen you sent showing a NEWLY downloaded spot, or an OLD one?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
that is a new one, I can only see it by basecamp, not on my device.
Correction I can see it on my GPS, but without the information. It is only a point (waypoint)
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
this is an old one and I can see the same information on my device (GPS)
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Sorry, I have to go, I send the first question at 04.48 PM, tomorrow I have to work, I have to wake up at 04.00 am.
Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again, and thanks for that.

OK - when you have time, please come back after work (or the next day) and we can continue on with this issue.

Have a restful night, Greg A.

Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again,
I just thought I would let you know that I MAY have found a possible solution, as this or similar issue has been reported on several geocaching sites on the web.
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When you had told me that only the NEW geocaches would not show up, and I asked about "memory" in the device, and that you did not see any error messages when trying to load in new geocaches, it did make me think that the files (gpx files) were not being loaded into the device memory properly - in some form or fashion.

I say this because the way MOST Garmin devices should work - when booting up and loading any stored information into main memory (waypoints, favorites, geocaches, etc.) the system software will look at the CURRENT files and folders, and see if there are ANY CHANGES in those areas, and then "refresh" that memory - IF the system software DOES DETECT some changes.
But this software DOES sometimes "mess up" - for reasons that have not been identified, so a "work around" has been found that works most of the time.

That workaround is as follows:
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When adding a new GPX file (file that contains geocaches),
1) First DELETE the unneeded ones (OLD ones), then
2) Disconnect and reboot the GPS, then
3) Reconnect and add the new GPX file.
4) Safely disconnect the device from the computer (using "safe removal" techniques), then physically disconnect and reboot the device.
5) TEST to see that the geocaches are there upon reboot.

NOTES:
- If this is not done, you may find "random" geocaches (or sometimes all) are missing - even though you can see the files on the device (directly or through another program - like BaseCamp).
- I believe this works because the REBOOT when the old files are deleted "clears" the internal memory and gets the device ready to accept new data.
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When you get a chance, please give this process a try and let me know your results.

Thanks, ***** *****

Expert:  Greg A. replied 1 year ago.

Hi again,

I see it has been a few days and I just wanted to follow up to see if you have any more questions concerning this issue or if the issue was resolved.

I look forward to any further questions or results that you may have.

Thanks, ***** *****

(im)