Hi there are you available?
My name is XXXXX XXXXX if you are up for it I would like to try to narrow down some of the reasons your plants aren't doing so well
I am not sure what fitness has to do with my gardening question.
It has nothing to do it with - but fitness specialist is just my user name on Just answer. I am a "farm grown" individual with my entire life experience of agriculture
if you would like the assistance of someone else just let me know
No, just want to know what is wrong with tomatoes.
OK great this is a bit of a complex issue, with some elimination strategy to be done on your part. Tell me, where are these plants planted - and if ground planted, have you ever had issues with them before?
Yes in ground. No issues before. Have had tomatoes in same area before.
Ok and can you tell me about your watering habits - if any?
many times the more simple issue is OVER or UNDERwatering
Water about once or twice a week depending on weather. Use soaker hose mostly.
Excellent information. If you were to go outside and stick your finger down to about root level, do you think the soil would be moist?
plants like these like good drainage BUT
they also like to not be drowning in soggy soil
it can get very very hot during the day and actually dry out the soil a bit more than people think
Not an issue with our soil. Sand and compost mostly.
do the leaves have spots?
the yellowing ones
The yellow ones.
have you checked the underside of the leaves
spotting is an indicator of either small insect damage OR
bacterial wilt, which is very common actually
when people can't pinpoint a problem and have exhausted all efforts we usually default to wilt
what is different about this years plants compared to last years plants
Other than them dying not much. Have lots of green tomatoes. Plants not as full.
on the plants with the yellow leaves
does it stay JSUT on that group of leaves
or is it the WHOLE entire plant?
stems and leaves i mean
or entire plant
stems and leaves
just in like one section?
but a definite area?
also - are the fruits included?
or hasn't this plant given anything yet
Don't understand. There are 6 plants that are planted in same area and all are experiencing same delemia
i was under the impression that it was a single plant out of a group
usually when plants experience a widespread issue like this - if you do not notice anything as far as infesation
it tends to lean toward bacteria wilt, which is soil borne and tends to affect entire crops
that why initially i asked about them being in ground or potted
the easiest way to tell, as unfortunate as it is
would be to have 2 new potted plants, grow them until you are sure they are thriving
keep one potted but then transplant one to the ground
this should reproduce the same symptoms telling you its bacterial wilt
As miserable as this problem is, its very very common in some area
and can be new season to season
The fact that its consistent from plant to plant and happening from each plant planted in this area basically confirms
are you able to take a soil sample and have it evaluated for micronutrient content
What you can actually try as well is available at walmart
i believe its called Serenity or Serenade
its a bacterial combatant
I will also give that a try. Thanks for your help.
hang on one moment
let me find other products in case you dont have that
alright having a tough time finding other solutions
but seeif you can find that
one way to evaluate if it is wilt
or bacterial infection
take the worst plant(one that might die off anyway)
cut it at soil level and check the inside of the stalk for discoloration
after that put it in a glass of water and see if anything oozes out - if it does that would be an indication of that sickness
i would recommend seeing if you can start 2 new plants in pots
then transfering one to the soil and seeing if that reproduces
the other thing is making sure the source of plants, just in case, is tested initially to ensure youre not getting plants or seeds that might be contaminated
AND - having a micronutrient evaluation on the soil would be a priority as well
I will follow up with these steps. Does this stay in soil from year to year.
As miserable as the situation is right now, did I help you in understanding a few of the probable causes of your yellowing, spotting and dying leaves on these plants
um yes sometiems it can
it also could be something that was on the plants themselves if you bought them
AND could have been the seeds if they were planted from seed
theres bacteria in the soil all over the place
sometimes the soil isn't great or "clean" but people are able to do OK
im almost suspect of the plants or seeds
but check the soil if so
and do the potting transfer with 1 of the 2 plants to confirm
at least this way you have a "control" plant and then an experimental plant
so you can say for sure
Does that help?
I totally agree. Hugely. Again thanks for your time and efforts. I really appreciate everything.
I love tomatos myself - i eat them like apples
and you are absolutely welcome
turn your soil, and wash your hands - obviously if these dont survive make sure they are destroyed and NOT reintroduced into the composter you have
let me know how everything goes please
Have a good day - don't hesitate to request "fitnessmike" if you want to work with me exclusively