Hi I am attempting, to find out which part of the UK, my relatives come from. Their name was Hutchinson. The earliest ancestor I can trace was one William Hutchinson, born in 1817. In 1848, William Hutchinson married Eleanor Rose Barnes at Tendring in Essex. On 24 November 1849, William and Eleanor departed by ship, the Sovereign to Natal South Africa. William subsequently died in Pietermaritzburg Natal , on 30 July 1890, and is buried in Commercial road cemetery, Pietermaritzburg. His brother in law, Robert John Barns - also his business partner, married a Mary Ann Land in 1849 in Bradfield, and both couples sailed on the same ship out to Natal. Both men were graziers by profession. That`s all I have. As said, i am trying to puzzle out where William Hutchinson was born. Thanks D XXXXX.
Optional Information: What have you tried so far?: Scan of all records in UK I can access. Because person in question was born at start of 19 century, records are skimpy. The other isssue is there a lot of Hutchinson`s ! I have also researched military & civil records in South Africa.
Hello D.Price,
I will research this question, I will be back if I need more Information.
Brendan
How`s it going? I was beginning to wonder if one should consult the Domesday book ! But seriously, all of this has arisen because i am attempting to trace relatives families that died in WW1 and 2. It came about because i noticed several name repeats of unusual christian names down the generations.
Peripherally, the parents of another possible relative ( Aubrey Neville Hutchinson, killed on the Somme on 15/7/1916 as a member of South African forces ) Gerald Pemberton Hutchinson( born in Rugby ) and Mabel Mary Hutchinson ( nee Moore ), retired to Sudbury in Suffolk.
Robert XXXXX XXXXX was from Essex. There seem to be several indicators to Sussex, Essex, Cambridgeshire.
Regards
Duncan.
Helo Duncan,I will have a look for youBrendan
Hello Duncan,Was his fathers name on the marriage certificate?Brendan
Not sure which one you are referring to, remember in all of this, there is only a possibility the the Hutchinson family from whom Aubrey Neville descended was related to the Hutchinson`s of William`s lineage. It may just be coincidence. But, both families moved around between London and the Essex/Sussex area.
There are parish records of all 3 marriages, William to Eleanor Rose Barns, Robert John Barns to Mary Anne Land, and Gerald Pemberton Hutchinson to Mabel XXXXX XXXXX.
From a motivational viewpoint Brendan, there are two aspects which are striking. But they could be coincidence also.
1.) William & Eleanor Rose Barns were married in 1848. Robert Barns & Mary Anne Land were married in 1849. Both couples then climbed onto the SS Sovereign in November 1849 and went out to Africa. In the 19th century, Africa was not a freindly place. The Kaffir wars were going on, the Zulu wars of the 60`s/70`s were still to come, and the first boer war of 1880 etc. William & robert must have been pretty close to venture forth with their families to a place like southern Africa at that time. Lot of unknowns/risks.
2.) Aubrey Neville Hutchinson joined a South African unit. Aubrey was born in London and had lived there all his life. Why in 1915, at the age of 18, choose to join a South African outfit, 2 SAI ? Remember all ships were coal fired, it took 8 weeks from Plymouth to Cape town, another 10 to Durban. German submarines were active. in 1915 the first great manpower panic was on in the UK. Kitcheners poster was everywhere, calling for volunteers. Why does Aubrey go 6000 miles south to register in a country he has never been to. The answer that is at least possible, is that he had family there. Ie both Hutchinsons were related.
Duncan
One other snippet has come in that may be useful. William and Eleanor Rose Hutchinson had a son, Albert , born in 1848, in Tendring Essex. This was a year before they went out to South Africa. But obviously, William Hutchinson was living in or near tendring at that time. It may be his home town?
Hello Duncan,
I will have a good look at your question today.
That`s about all I know about William. He was born in 1817. Married Eleanor Rose Barnes in 1848 at Tendring Essex. Had a son, Albert, born in Tendring in 1848. Left Plymouth 24/11/ 1849 on board SS Sovereign for Cape Town/ Durban. He very likely would have applied for a passport in 1848/9. His place of birth would certainly be recorded there.
Hello Duncan,There was a John who married in Tendring a couple of years after William, I am trying to follow him up, possible brother.Brendan
Good. I am pretty sure by now, that if you wish to locate William`s birth cert, it will be in parish records due to early date ( 1817 ). Two other William Hutchinson`s that have cropped up in parish records as born in 1816/17 are in Dagenham Essex ( 1816 ) and March/ St Wendreda Cambridgeshire. The rest are all in Cumbria/Yorkshire/Durham. That might be where the hutchinson`s originally sprang from ( in the domesday book ), but in William`s case, there is a constant theme about Essex? Sussex/Cambridgeshire. I would say that`s the most likely area by a long way. The Robert John Barns connection is significant. The son Albert, was born in 1849 in Tendring too.
Hi Duncan,I am still looking.Brendan
Hi Duncan,The record below is what my systems are telling me is the correct recordname: William Hutchinsongender: Malebaptism/christening date: 28 Mar 1816baptism/christening place: St. Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, Englandbirth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: George Peter Hutchinsonfather's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Elizabeth Hutchinsonmother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C00923-4system origin: England-EASysource film number: (NNN) NNN-NNNNreference number: p. 15, No. 114Brendan
Experience: Brendan has worked as an expert for Ancestry.com specialising in Irish / American research.