My elusive ancestor 'John Fitzgerald' whose Father is listed as "Hugh Fitzgerald" & Mother Johanna Noonan on John's marriage certificate in 1889 in Wagga Wagga, New South Wales, Australia. I think he may have come via a ship called the 'Cahors' about 1885 into Victoria, Australia but I cannot really tie all this together can you give me some help Please? with thanks Nora
Census records Ireland no luck.
Births in Ireland I think I may have right "John" except fathers name is XXXXXX XX Wm not Hugh!
Can prove his whereabouts once he is in NSW but cannot prove were he came into Australia. I think he may have come on a ship called the 'Cahors' but cannot prove this.
Have John's marriage for 1889 which lists his father as Hugh mother Johanna Noonan
Hi, Welcome to Just Answer and thanks for your question.
Passenger lists are rare and generally don't provide enough information to establish relationships. I will look to see if I can find anything on him but don't expect much of anything.
What other records do you need in Ireland that I can look for you?
John's marriage in 1889 states he came from Victoria, Australia but on a NSW unassisted Immigrant passenger list he came from Port Melbourne to Sydney NSW and that record states he came from Ireland and the vessel Name is "Cahors'
No additional passenger list information available.
There is only one marriage record available online for a Fitzgerald and Noonan, it is in 1911 and in County Cork, Ireland.
There were three marriage records available for Hugh Fitzgerald but none to a Noonan or a Johanna. One of them in Dublin in 1838, one in 1874 in Tyrone, and one of them was in 1911 also in County Tyrone, but nothing else. Listed below are all those marriages whose father is also listed as "Hugh". (+/- 10 years from 1910)
Action Cost Source Surname First Name Year County 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald Hugh 1911 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Church Marriage Fitzgerald Hugh 1911 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Church Marriage Fitzgerald Catharine 1912 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald Catherine 1912 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald Mary 1913 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Church Marriage Fitzgerald Mary 1913 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Church Marriage Fitzgerald Robert 1913 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald Robert 1913 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald Patrick 1914 Co. Tyrone 25 credits Church Marriage Fitzgerald Patrick 1914 Co. Tyrone
For those around 1880 with a father named Hugh there were only three.
Action Cost Source Surname First Name Year County 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald Catherine 1882 Co. Tipperary 25 credits Church Marriage Fitzgerald Margaret 1877 Co. Dublin 25 credits Civil Marriage Fitzgerald John 1886 Co. Tyrone
Obviously a connection to County Tyrone, ...Dublin, and Tipperary as well for Hugh Fitzgerald.
The answer to reference to other names for Hugh can be found at this link. No William.
Has this been helpful to you?
No it really has not been at all helpful as any marriage in 1900's could not be parents to my 'John' as he listed his parents as Hugh & Johanna in 1889. The birth I have that seems the closest so far for John is 1859 in Cork along with other Fitzgerald's & Noonan's. I am beginning to suspect that "Hugh" is often a "John" !!
Wow! Sorry. I am a little dissapointed in your response.
So what you are saying is you are penalizing my answer because it gave you too much information?
Put aside the references in the 1900's, I gave you that as extra info that I thought you might find interesting.
I searched for the Hugh Fitzgerald and Johanna Noonan marriage and gave you all the results not just the ones available around the time of their sons birth.
I also gave you marriages where the father is listed as Hugh Fitzgerald which is also additional and extra info.
I gave you the reference on the Hugh name which is also extra information and answered directly your additional question on the name and William.
To say that "it really has not been at all helpful" is not very true or very nice, really.
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I am sorry you did not appreciate my reply but I was disappointed with the result. Thank you for trying.
I am sorry too, I may have over reacted as well. I try to go the second mile with my customers and strive to give them great service. If I sense dissapointment I take it very personally.
I understand your disappointment when you can't find what you are looking for. Sometimes the road blocks to finding the information we seek make them elusive. The solution to brick walls is to find another way around it, under it, over it, or through it with the help of others that specialize in that particular wall. In your case it may be hiring a specialist that works at the National Archives in Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-researchers-nationwide/
I wish you the best with your family history.
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Yes I would be happy to do that
Thank you so much!
I appreciate you working with me on this.
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