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Wow...glad to find this site~! I am stumped. My great great Aunt Inga Gudmundson was married in Utah to Albert John Knudsen in Springville. I have located all of her siblings burial locations. Her's is the only one I cannot find. I have a death date, but nothing comes up on ancestry.com and there isn't a death cert in Utah for her. Several of her siblings left and went to California. I just found a Mrs. Inga Knudsen on a city directory in Los Angeles for 1929. The death date I have is 10 Aug 1930. Also...this is smack dab in the great depression and there is an Inga Knudsen ON THE FARM in L.A.  


 I kind of assume that she married again, but nothing comes up in California or Utah. Nor in California for that date. It is on family pedigree sheets. Where would you go next?  I am not an amateur, but this one is tough. Thanks Schuyler.

 



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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 307 days and 5 hours ago.

Hi, Welcome and glad to hear from you!

 

Thanks for your question...it's a tough one though so I am not sure how much we can help, but I will look for a solution.

 

Just out of curiosity, how did you hear about us?

 

Any additional information that you can share? You have a death date ...but no location, correct?

 

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Customer replied 307 days and 5 hours ago.

Correct Jim. Just the date.


Her husband died in 1911; Only other info I have from family is that she studied holistic medicine in Chicago with Charles Atlas, but that trail didn't go anywhere either.


Location written on pedigree sheets is SLC, but I have checked with Rod at the Death Index there in Utah...no death certificate on that date for an Inga....nor the whole month. No Inga Knudsen buried at the SL City Cemetery...they only index the cemetery by name....not date.


Are you LDS? Only LDS members understand additional info.

Customer replied 307 days and 5 hours ago.

"Just answer" website popped up on the side of my google.mail in the advertising area...never noticed it before.

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 307 days and 4 hours ago.

Very interesting! Thanks for the feedback on the marketing.
Yes, True Blue Through and Through.

My feeling is she must have remarried. How old was she when her husband died?

Customer replied 307 days and 4 hours ago.

30 born in 1881


I spoke with a gentleman at BYU Idaho about the western marriage index. He said it was taken away by the church before the indexing was all done.

I figure she married again, but then...no way of telling. Love that index too~!


Even putting just INGA in on the death index for Utah...nothing. I figured I would find her under a married name.

Customer replied 307 days and 4 hours ago.

I have an errand to run Jim.... I will be back online to check in a few hours.


Shelly

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 307 days and 3 hours ago.

I see they were living in Provo in 1910 just before Albert died living on a farm there and married for 4 years with no children.

Did she have a middle name? Were you able to find her on the 1920 census after Albert died and was she listed as a widow? I can't imagine her continuing on without getting remarried at such a young age and no children. But you never heard of children (your cousins) being born from her did you?

I had an Aunt growing up that all I knew of her was she was a Stevens, but came to learn she had married twice and that is how I finally found her death record.

Without knowing the right last name at time of her death it may be tough to find her. If she had survived to get a SSN it would have helped, but it doesn't sound like that is the case if she died in 1930.

So where was she in 1920?

Customer replied 306 days and 22 hours ago.

Nope...checked the 1920 census and she wasn't on it for Provo...where she and XXXXX XXXXXved when he died.


Harold at the BYU library...gave me Albert's obituary. It mentions "survived by his loving wife" a child, his parents...etc.


I am headed to my family history center tomorrow...to view the films for 1905 - 1911...for the Provo 6th Ward Clerk's records.


There is another mystery with this possible child....If they did have one...I think it was a son and Inga's brother, Samy who lived here in California...may have adopted him.


Just got a "Certificate of Search" with notice of "no record found" for the possible child name...but...I didn't request it under Knudsen...I requested under Gudmundson. Orval Sheldon Gudmundson. Interesting things is Orval had a son and his middle name is Albert~! Sheldon Albert...do big of a coincidence. Can't find him either~!


Orval died in 1939...death cert shows pneumonia and single...I know better.


Inga must have gotten married again..but don't know where to look. Hoping it may be in the Ward records too...


shelly

Customer replied 306 days and 22 hours ago.

Good question...don't know where she is after Albert died...


Customer replied 306 days and 22 hours ago.

Inga Ronalde Maria Gudmundson Knudsen full name


http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/westernStatesRecordDetail.cfm?recordID=388193

Customer replied 306 days and 22 hours ago.

Except....there is a Mrs. Inga Knudsen...1921... City Directory for Los Angeles...if you have ancestry.com access...


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2469&iid=3400590&fn=Inga&ln=Knudsen&st=r&ssrc=pt_t11410050_p-469996860_kpidz0q3d-469996860z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=236601194


On the 1930 census...in California...there is an Inga Knudsen and I think it says she is from Utah...on the "farm"...I will double check...

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 306 days and 13 hours ago.

Thanks...I will look up those references on Ancestry and see what else I can find.

Customer replied 306 days and 12 hours ago.

It is Albert Sheldon...Gudmundson. Too coincidental for sure.

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 306 days and 12 hours ago.

Thanks for the additional information. I will get back to you.

Customer replied 306 days and 11 hours ago.

1930 Census "Inga G. Weller" married...Utah/Norway/Norway


http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6224&iid=4532346_00327&fn=Inga+G&ln=Weller&st=r&ssrc=pt_t11410050_p-469996860_kpidz0q3d-469996860z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgPLz0q3dpid&pid=123073130

Customer replied 306 days and 11 hours ago.

No INGA at all in the book for 10 Aug 1930 at SLC Cemetery. Robin just checked. July - Sept.


Pam at Mt. Olivette is checking now.

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 306 days and 10 hours ago.

It looks like from this 1930 Census that you may have a match and a reason that you haven't been able to find her before. She probably remarried a "Weller" and had a son named Samuel. Then for whatever reason she was sent to a mental institution for women in California by 1930.

 

If she did study holistic medicine in Chicago maybe she did become a nurse. There is a reference of a nurse named Mrs. Inga "G" Knudsen in L.A. in 1916 in the Voter Registrations...leaving her plenty of time to remarry a Weller in California, have a son Samuel, and then be institutionalized by 1930. She probably died that same year as the census. I will look for her death index under Weller in CA.

 

It looks like from the additional voter registrations in California that I looked at that any other references to a Mrs. Inga Knudsen in L.A. are all referring to a different Inga and her husband Anton a laborer living on Reseda 1924 - 1954.

 

However, the 1921 directory for L.A. shows the two at different addresses...one for him on Hyatt and one for her on Angelus av., so perhaps there are two Mrs. Inga Knudsen's in L.A. about the same time.

 

From the 1916 Voter Registration we find Mrs. Inga "G" Knudsen, a nurse, living atXXXXX, but it doesn't show the names prior to hers so I can't see if Anton is listed at the same address.

http://search.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1249&iid=losangelescounty_6-0592&rc=1621,493,1703,509;1764,491,1806,507&pid=2503185097&ssrc=&fn=Inga&ln=Knudsen&st=g

 

That may be a lead or just another reference to the same Mrs. Inga Knudsen who is listed with Anton in the 1930 census as being born in Norway abt 1883.

 

The first impression for me is still the same, in order to survive on her own she needed to remarry so look for the Weller connection.

 

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Customer replied 306 days and 10 hours ago.

Awesome...though it isn't a mental institution, it is a poverty farm...for the great depression. I had found the other Inga as well. You have given me more food for thought. I am surprised a marriage doesn't show up in CA. I shall persevere! Thanks Jim.

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 306 days and 10 hours ago.

Here's more information on the current facility. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rancho_Los_Amigos_National_Rehabilitation_Center

 

The last page of the census for the Farm shows it also had a psycho ward. She is listed as being in the Infirmary IV so I may have jumped to the conclusion it was a mental institution.

 

I did find also a Frank Weller in 1928 in L.A. on the Voter Registrations. He is listed as a Lighthouse Keeper for the L.A. Harbor. Only Weller listed in 1928. By the way he was a Republican!

 

Could be a connection between the two. I didn't find a marriage record for them however.

 

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Customer replied 306 days and 10 hours ago.

Go Mitt! That gave me a good laugh. Thanks Jim. She will let me find her when it is time. She has a niece that is still living in Arizona who has one of her middle names, though Inga died when Lillias was only 8. I guess a phone call is in order. Again...thanks!

Customer replied 306 days and 7 hours ago.

Provo 3rd ward records destroyed in fire for 1910-1912 ugh.

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Expert:  TheFHRG replied 306 days and 7 hours ago.

Too bad on Provo Ward records but I am sure she will show up soon. The veil is thinning. Go Mitt!

 

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Customer replied 306 days and 6 hours ago.

Albert was ordained a seventy in 1903~! Pretty young...I thought. Yes...it is thinning...chills thinking about it. Thanks again Jim.

 
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