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my ps3 shuts off after 1 second .. red led light flashes c

 
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my ps3 shuts off after 1 second .. red led light flashes continually.what are my options?this should be under game console category, i cant change category.cant eject disk either.

 



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Submitted: 361 days and 2 hours ago.
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Expert:  green-owl replied 360 days and 20 hours ago.

Hello.

Both Sony and Microsoft failed a lot in electronic design with their current generation of console. The problem is overheat and cooling cycle. Some chips just unsolder (cold join). The reason why the Wii get lot less problem is because they did not over engineered it so it's less powerful and heat a lot less.

Here is a video that show how to "possibly" solve it step by step:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9I0omACetc
I say possibly because this technique does not add more solder and there is always the risk to go over the chips temperature tolerance and make irreversible damages.

If you are under warranty still, use that. If you can bring it to a nice tech at a repair shop, you can always do that (he might not charge as much as Sony to do the fix). And you can always try it yourself and bump up some skill at the same time.

As the same solder formulation is used the problem may happen again in the future. Make sure yo use the best thermal paste available (and don't put too much as it then become less heat conductor). Always try to have the console in a well ventilated area. I would even go to say that if you can prevent to play it in temperature over 30C, try to do so, go to the pool instead :) (i personally have all my console in the basement because it's lot fresher in the hot summers).

* note: the guy does not use an anti-static wrist strap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antistatic_wrist_strap
It's always better to use one, you don't want to fix the cpu and gpu but causing other problem by zapping the RAM in the process with bad manipulation.

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Expert:  scoeas1982 replied 360 days and 4 hours ago.

OVER HEATING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IIT A YLOD OR RED BLINKING LIGHT IS A GENERAL HARDWARE FAILURE IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE 99 PERCENT OF THE TIME ITS THE GPU. IT DOES NOT BECOME UNSOLDERED EITHER. THE SOLDER CRACKS AND SMALL HAIRLINE FRACTURES CAUSE A DISCONNECT FROM THE PAD. SONY AND MICROSOFT HAD NO DESIGN FLAWS EITHER. YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO USE LED BASED SOLDER, AND THEY CANT HELP THAT THE SOLDER GIVES OUT AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS. BLAME THE POLITICS NOT THE MANUFACTURER.Maria-ProMod41018.8437708333

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Expert:  green-owl replied 359 days and 22 hours ago.

(Edited by Moderator) Even if a "cold join" is far too used as a term (as it cover lot of different source of solder problem), it's indeed what happen and what scoeas1982 explain as hairline fracture are exactly that. He might know about the lead ban in solder (even if he call it "LED") but does not know what cause it :) and that is heat and cold cycles because the more crystalline structure does not have the same Young modulus and plasticity than with lead in it. It can even happen over time even with lead as with some CRT TV (another thing with strong hot/cool cycle), the lead migrate in the soldering and the remaining metal tend to crystallize. About Sony and Microsoft not able to solve this problem and not being a flaw. Notice that most PC rarely suffer this because they are properly build and tested (as they are also used in commercial applications). The previous XBOX 1 was based on all PC component and did not suffered this, neither is the Wii (at least lost less than the other) not the game cube and neither was the Dreamcast. All those also made under the lead ban. As for thing they can do, they can put ticker copper path that will help to average the heat on the surface mount contact area (of course what does an electrical engineer know about those thing :P). "GUN REFLOW AND ITS BREAKS AGAIN 2 WEEK ANYWAY", notice that i mentioned it will break again in the future (farther than 2 weeks). Maria-ProMod41018.8423289352

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