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Sounds like the starter relay but i want to start by having you disconnect both of the battery cables for 5 minutes and reconnect them. Let me know what it does.
So it just keeps turning over wont start and will not stop turning the engine over until you have the key off correct?
Is your vehicle equipped with automatic start?
Do you have any lights on the dash blinking or on?
I was suspecting a possible issue with the security system here but with no lights coming on It sounds to me like the ignition switch is the problem here.
They do go out and sometimes sooner than later depending on the weather and use. I have seen farm vehicles go threw switches all the time because of dust dirt but on normal vehicles it is not as common but we do see them in the shop consistently. You will remove the cover on the steering column and follow the steps I have loaded below.
You have to replace the ignition switch and this should correct the issue. It is acting as if you do not have one connected.
It should but if you remove it this will completely bypass the ignition switch. That appears to be what the system is doing. So this verifies the ignition switch is shorted out completely.
Should look like this.
The steps I sent are the only ones I have available for the ignition switch. The only other ones available are for the ignition cylinder but I have loaded them as well.
You have to release the tabs and it slides out. Did it not slide out?
Yeah the tilt lever has release tabs on it. You press the release tabs and pull out the lever. You will have to get another lever and push the release tabs and fish out the rest of the lever still in the slot.
I am having a hard time getting good photos to show you what i am talking about. But here is a good one
If you have the manual rod I believe that just sits on there with a little c clip
Okay they just clip right over a metal tab and it is common for them to fall out. You can simply put it back on and hold it tight with some silicone.
I think we are talking about different things here. the plastic clip fits over a metal tab. Can you send a photo please.
I have never replaced one of those on this vehicle. Let me open this question up to the rest of the experts and one should be able to assist that has experienced this before.
Hello, do you need help with the starting issue or replacing a broken tilt steering lever?
Ok removal and replacement of the tilt lever requires removal of the column and partial disassembly to replace it. Its a pretty involved job including removal of the airbag. Not something I would recommend you doing yourself unless you are comfortable doing this type of repair. You still need to figure out the cranking all the time issue? Have you checked the starter relay in the passenger side fuse panel for being melted??
Sorry bout that, was thinking it was the earlier model fuse panel. The starter relay is located in the undehood fuse panel as shown here.
I havent seen an ignition switch fail, its possible, the ignition switch sends current to the starter relay through the park neutral switch when cranking, you would have to pull the relay and see if the relay is getting power when cranking only or all the time.One lead will be hot all the time, other will be hot only in the crank position. If 2 of the leads are hot all the time, then it would be an ignition switch possibility.
Does it stop cranking with it removed?
Ok. you said you swapped the starter relay with another so its doing the same thing. So it shouldnt be a rleay issue long as the fuse block didnt look melted or overheated where the relay sits. There is an early and late production starter circuit.The later model uses a starter diode in the fuse panel which if equipped would be next to the fuel pump and ac clutch diode in the underhood fuse box, does it have a third diode next to the other two or is this spot blank? If it has a starter diode try swapping it out with one of the others and check for the starter staying engaged.
Ok, here is a copy of the schematic for the late build with the diode for the starter circuit. With the starter relay removed, see if you are getting power on pin 85 for the starter relay which you most likely are. This wire runs through the starter diode and is fed by the ignition switch which is a blue/white wire on the switch. Long as the ignition tumbler springs back after turning the key to crank, the switch should not have power.If it does have power all the time, disconnect the electrical connector at the ignition switch and inspect for signs of being overheated or melted. Unbolt the ignition switch and see if it moves freely.
See, if the switch is still sending power on the blue white wire. If it is then the switch is bad.
Ok so the switch is doing what it is supposed to. Then its a possibility that the starter motor itself is shorted at the solenoid. You will have to get under the vehicle on the passenger side to get to the starter and disconnect the small starter wire at the solenoid on the starter, Test and see if this wire has power when the key is off, it should only be hot during the crank position. Need to be careful the larger wire at the starter is hot all the time so you dont want to short a tool against it or disconnect the battery before removing the wire. Also inspect the wiring at the starter for any damage
Then you are sure you are pulling the right relay?it would have to have a short at the relay or in the fuse panel for it to feed that circuit if not getting power from the switch to the relay
test for power a the relay, have to take apart the fuse panel check for a shorted wire or run a new wire from the relay to the starter, bypass shorted circuit
Its listed in the schematic, the relay has numbers on it to identify the circuit it runs as shown in the schematic. You said the starter is engaged all the time, I dont recall you saying anything about it wont run
So you turn the key to on and it cranks all the time and wont stop cranking? It cranks and it wont run? Does the THEFT lamp flash when you turn the key to on?
Communication to the PCM with a scan tool? Check engine light comes on when the key is turned to on? The THEFT lam comes on solid and then goes out when the key is turned to on?
Ok, need to verify fuel pressure to engine, see if it will start with some carb clean sprayed into intake. If it runs it should stop cranking over.
Ok good, seemed like if it would crank and not start that was the direction to go to.