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Ford fusion 2014 One of key's is lost and another one is

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Ford fusion 2014
One of key's is lost and another one is my key and limited
Is it possible to make that key too admin or unlimited?
And i have IDS program but it needs username and password ***** making changes to PATS
Submitted: 8 months ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Hello my name is***** will access the information for you, give me a few minutes.

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Yes you can make that key a admin key, but you must purchase a second key and have them both programmed to the vehicle using a IDS tester. You will then have 2 admin keys.

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Any more questions just ask, thanks Scott

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Thanks dear *****
I have ford vcm and IDS aplication
IDS tester is anything different?
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Because if i have two key
IDS needs username and password ***** programming the keys using pats
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I am also need some website or application to find as built data for module programming because in some vehicle models needs to entered manually
Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Yes you need a subscription for ids. Are you a repair shop or Ford technician? You can purchase through ford motor company.

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

We charge 35 dollars labor to program a key. The key is around 30-40 dollars. If I remember the subscription is around 1500 dollars.

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Any more questions just ask, thanks Scott

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I am a independent repair person
With IDS subscription i can program pats and keys or another account needed for this? Because IDS says this part is online
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
how can i buy the subscription?
Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

No you use the IDS tester to program pats keys, you also need a VCM 2. Here is a link for the subscription.

http://www.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/vdirs/wds/vcm_Retail_renewal.asp

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Here are the system requirements for running the software on a laptop.

http://scantoolresource.com/ford-scan-tool/

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.
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Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Thanks dear *****
I'm new to JustAnswer
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Sorry for asking too many questions
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I have VCM II device
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Please tell me step by step procedure
1- i have VCM
2- i need ids (1500$)
3- purchase spare key (30-40)
4- ?
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
I think i need also Module Reprogramming & Initialization service subscription also
Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

1 ok good, just FYI vcm 2 is the best it has built in recorder feature to send the VCM2 and vehicle out for a test drive to capture a fault.

2 We use a normal laptop computer and use IDS software. We have 8 of them at our dealership. https://www.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/vdirs/wds/diagnosticsites/vcmdvd/mcs/idssoftware.asp

3 The key can be cut at a dealership with your old key present, the cost is 30-50 dollars depending on the type of key. If it has a key FOB built in, it could be 100 dollars.

4 Downloading the software and subscription will take quite awhile as these files are large, when we update every month it normally takes 2-3 hours for a update.

5 Once you have a subcription and license, the IDS will check the VCM for the latest update and will let you know if a update is needed and will do it through the IDS.

6 Once you have IDS and subscription and working VCM, you will be able to program keys.

Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

7 If you need computer help, or installing or asking about computer terminology that I am not familiar with, your best bet is with the comuter section of Just Answer. This can be quite an undertaking, I have read about several independant shops that have had a hard time getting this all this put together.

8 Here is really the best bet, purchase this and buy a subscription license and start programming. https://rotunda.service-solutions.com/en-US/Pages/ItemDetail.aspx?SKU=164-R9819

Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Does IDS software do module programing and gaining security access to PATS?
Customer: replied 8 months ago.
Which one i need to buy?
Expert:  Scott W. replied 8 months ago.

Yes we can do both pats and programming. Looks like you need both. No sense having it if you can't do pats.

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