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Glow plug problem.
, 2002 7.3, wasn't starting unless

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Customer: ***** *****, glow plug problem.
JA: Thanks. Can you give me any more details about your issue?
Customer: 2002 7.3, wasn't starting unless plugged in, found bad gp relay, changed it, still not energizing the gp side, got power from batt to big post, and power on both little terminals, when i turn the key on the wire from cpm is not cutting the circuit to energize the relay, I took cpm wire of and grounded it and that energized the relay, same for the aih
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Submitted: 10 months ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.

Hello, so when you ground the small post on the glow plug relay it energizes and the vehicle will start?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
didn't get that far, batteries died, it will start after plugged in.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
pcm has power, truck runs fine, even disconnected the eot to see if that would energize the relay, it didn't. its 30 and snowing here.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
by energize, i mean create a ground.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
would low batteries tell the pcm not to energize the gpr?
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
after charging the batteries, I created a ground and it started and looped and died, i did change the right side glow plugs, so have are new.
Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.

Each glow plug tested with an ohm meter to ground should be between .5-1.9ohms. If grounding the glow plug relay energized it and it started this is a bad ground inside the PCM itself. The repair for that will be to replace the PCM or run a manual switch to control the glow plug relay. If you energized it you should keep it energized for at least 45sec before attempting to start.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
to fix it, i would have to change the pcm?
Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.

Correct if the ground driver in the PCM is bad. Replacing the PCM is the correct repair. If you wanted an inexpensive repair you could wire the small post to a switch inside the vehicle. Run the switch to ground you can manually control the glow plugs.

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.

Hello, can I still offer you assistance? If not please remember to rate my answer so I receive credit for assisting you.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Your good, was hoping there was another answer, I wired a manual switch through a relay.
Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.

Wiring a switch is the route I have gone for many customers when this happens.

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