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ford f150: my 2004 ford f150 xlt wont go out of 4x4.

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my 2004 ford f150 xlt wont go out of 4x4.
Submitted: 10 months ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
If you have the vehicle in neutral will it go into 4lo by chance?
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

nope it just stays in 4x4


 

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
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If you copy and paste these links into your browser It is the wire diagram forXXXXX If you have a multi meter we can test for power. If you have a scan tool that will read 4x4 module it will probably display codes. You can hit the transfer case with a rubber mallet and see if it comes out of 4x4. If the fuses are good I would inspect the relays but it's unlikely both would go bad. More than likely you will be putting a transfer case shift motor to fix your concern. If you do have multi meter I can go over wire testing with you if you would like?
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

i dont have a multi meter. where is the transfer case.

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
The transfer case is mounted to the back of the transmission and is silver in color. The transfer case motor is black and silver. It is held on by 3 bolts.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

u dont have an engine diagram to do u?

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
Do you mean a picture of the transfer case and shift motor?
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

ya where exactly it would be located im kind of car retarded

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
That isn't a problem. Let me know if this link works or not. If you go under the vehicle between the back door and the bed is about where the transfer case is located. The picture on this link is about half way down.

http://www.f150online.com/forums/2004-2008-f-150/437445-4wd-wont-engage-2.html
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Customer: replied 10 months ago.

thanx the link worked fine ill give it a try tomorrow.

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
Sounds good let me know if I can help with anything else
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Customer: replied 10 months ago.

i was wrong my trucks an 03 not an 04 does that make a difference?

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
Yes it does they did a body style change between those two years and changed the chassis some. The 4x4 motor is still the same and mounted to the same location.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

so all of the fixes u told me earlier should still work right?


 

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
Yes I will get the earlier wire diagrams though so you have them.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

thankyou

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
I can get the photos to upload so I will try again shortly.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

this is the 4x4 motor right

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Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
That is it.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

well i hit it with the rubber mallet but my console still says 4x4 but with my truck in the air only my back tires spin my front tires dont. so does that mean that my console is wrong?

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
In drive with foot on the brake can you turn front driveshaft. If you can try going back to 4hi and see if the driveshaft locks.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

It doesn't lock but it still says 4x4 on my console so does that mean I have to replace my shift motor

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
Unplug the shift motor and see if the light goes out?
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

Nope still on

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
If that didn't make a difference the problem is likely in the gem module. The fuse box under the dash is where the gem module is mounted too. If you remove the fuse panel you can remove the gem module. The gem module does need to be programmed to the vehicle though for proper operation.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

Do u have a diagram of the gem module and how to program it or do I need a mechanic to do it

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
The gem module has to be reprogrammed by a dealer or shop with ford programming capabilities. This Job takes a couple hours to do and is sort of a pain. Typically if a module needs to be programmed it has to be done at the dealer or you won't be able to drive the vehicle to the dealer if it isn't programmed.
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

Dam the dealership over here is a ripoff but thanx for the help

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
I can still send you the directions if you want to try it yourself?
Customer: replied 10 months ago.

Unless theirs a way to program it myself than I'd rather not try

Expert:  James replied 10 months ago.
If the dealer isn't a good place to go too then I would call some independent shops. There are some that can do the programming also.

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