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Hi Bob, i think i bought a lemon, Today I noticed the oil was low after 3 days of using it. I noticed oil residue on the right side of engine, not on the engine but in that area and seems it only does it when driving
This leak is on the drivers side?
yes, top of engine,
3 QTS seems like the leak is bad.
it was about 1/2 a quart in 3 days
but nothing dripping on the floor
Sorry misread that.
so it tells me it is happening when driving
This sounds like a valve cover gasket is leaking. I would also replace the pcv valve, because the valve sticks and causes gaskets and seals to blow out.
You can pinpoint it buy cleaning off the oil and putting some engine oil dye in and then you look at it with a black light to see where it comes out.
where can i purchase this engine oil die?
i am not familiar with this van. can you tell me the location of where this pcv valve is?
Most auto parts stores carry it. I always use the GM brands because it works so good. Most Parts stores do carry it though. Let me look up a picture for you.
and what do these part stores know it by? engine oil die?
or is there another name for it
Yes engine oil dye.
#1 in the picture.
thats the 2003 windstar? and the frong one?
im curious, i see alot of stuff on the back of these vans that seem to be hard to reach. How do yall work on min vans on the back. seems even hard to put brake fluid in
is there a way to take the top thing off to work on it?
Right next to the oil fill cap. Yeah with my big hands it gets worse and worse. We do a lot of the work on a rack in the air.
is there a way to take off the hood area above these components to like fill the brake fluid up
You can remove the cowling, but that is a project in itself. You can also remove the air cleaner housing.
whats is weird, is the master cylinder is on the back, the place to fill it up is like 4 inches from the top of that thing. How do you put brake fluid without spilling it?
We have a plastic bottle with an extension.
nice, that is what i am envisioning
dont tell me that all the vacuume hoses are back there too
Yes. Usually a tool for everything.
Yes, vacuum hoses are in the back.
well how can you put them on, do i ahve to take the whole engine to change vacuume lines?
No not at all. You can get to them from underneath. Sometimes you can do them by "feel". On this engine I would wait until they are needed.
ah, so from underneat, i can access the back?
thanks, XXXXX XXXXX working on my car so i know where everythinig is, but this is my first lemon minivan and i am trying to learn the basics
Yes. You will need to put it up on jack stands to get to them.
what is the recommended oil weight that I should use?
synthetic or regular?
the dye will be here tommorrow. Here are some pics I took of the leak after driving. The front valve cover looks and feels dry.
ok, here are the new pics. the first two show where all the wet is. i believe it is happening bending the third part and running down to where the first two pics show. is there a 2nd valve cover by the firewall?
how can i gain access to the back. I cant see back there. Can i get a clear view and access from under the van?
I also put the dye in there. What kind of black light? Do i need those glasses to?
PANEL - COWL TOP VENT Removal
thanks are those glasses just for uv protection?
who would carry these things locally? when i ask for uv glasses, they are saying yes, but then give me clear goggles that are uv protection. what are these called?
thank link dont work
I bought this one. I hope this works.
ok, i have the dye in the car? should i drive for a couple of days before checking?
you mean clean the current mess, then drive and check again? does this dye just stays on where it comes out or will it go wherever the oil runs to?
so for sure there should be some leaking that connect to engine and that should be the source?
there is no way i can see farther back.
i think i have to take off that cover to see back there.
I know the source is somewhere on the side where the other valve cover is.
can it be possible to leak where the injector harness plugs into?
you know right on the back on the valve cover?
i see that die on each of the little poles where the harness plugs into and i see some like on the bottom of the exhaust manifold, but it is hard to see specific where it is coming from. because i see it in different areas.
i think it may be leaking where the exhaust manifold bolts to the engine. There is a gasket there. can i send you a video of where it glows?
sorry i mean the intake manifold, not the exhaust manifold
dam, the pics dont show the glow, but i can point to where i see the glow.
is that alright.
Here is the pic. There is no glow on the valve cover gasket as people indicates that oil cant leak from the intake manifold behind the valve cover, so i dont know. what do you think?
here are two pics,
1.) the first one is in the front, right when you open hood
2.) the second one is the passenger side by the belts. i notice it really wet there.
yes, i would of thought valve cover, but if it was the valve cover gasket, it would of been glowing along with what i saw, but the only thing that is glowing is the gasket on intake manifold and those injector harness pipes, which i believe is from the spraying, dont you think it would of glowed too if valve cover was leaking. and the 2nd picture seems like it is from the end points of the intake.
is it possible for oil to leak all around the intake even the area by the valve cover?
Do I have to remove valve covers to remove intake
So I have to remove the fuel lines. Where are they and how do I do it t
i am removing the upper intake manifold and i noticed that pcv hose, the other side of where the pcv valve is was practically torn, and lots of oil from there. I am suspecting maybe this could be leaking oil from there, so i am nervous if this is the major leak from here, but does oil come from here?
hmmmm, i already have the upper intake manifold off, so i will just change the gaskets. i notice the oil is really really dirty, if i put my finger, it has residue. is this normal?
i am talking about the six holes that are present when i take off the upper manifold. i notice those six holes, they have like hinge openings, those are really dirty. can you tell
well, if i wipe with my finger, it comes off so it it not stuck on it like hard sludge, but really dirty. i have some bg quick clean. will that help? i was planning on changing the oil with new oil, put a clan of this quick clean, and run it for a few miles and then drain the oil and do this a couple of times to clean it.
should we clean the lower intake similar how we clean the valve covers when we change them?
one question, i got the tool to remove the fuel lines, but the smaller one doesn't want to come out. i was able to remove the bigger one. Why would it be so hard? Do i need to put alot of force. Im thinking maybe that smaller one has too much pressure which is making it hard. Please help!!!
i am using a 3/8th one, are those all universal or are fords different?
ok, please tell me the ford parts that i need for this job?
should i replace anything on upper intake since im there already?
why thermostat? where on the manuals does it show thermostat?
can you get me the ford part numbers for gaskets, and all these things.
what about the ends?
are the upper ends the white gaskeet between the two pieces on the upper intake?
another question, if an injector oring is bad, will it leak oil or fuel?
ok, and since i will have the injectors out, can i test for fuel leak in them and is there a way to clean them like the shops do since ihave them out?
ok, i took the fuel lines out, the electrical connectors, the four bolts. how do i take this out. it does not come out easy. do i have to forcefully take it out.
ok, i took it off, wow, black from the oil leak.
also on the back of the intake manifold, leaking even more.
how do i take off the heater hose. there is a plastic clip on it?
also what size wrench do i need to remove the egr to exhaust manifold tube?
ok, i got the lower intake manifold off.
do you think i should buy dealer gaskets or are felpro gaskets better?
before i put this stuff back on, is there any change the head gasket could be the cause of this leak too?
yes, i see them, i just want to make sure they are quality.
if the head gasket was leaking, where would it leak from?
arent the heads internal.
are you saying under the vehicle. all i see is the intake hitting the block. are you talking about below the valve cover?
so it would of been leaking under there on the block?
yes and i noticed these leaks were like rust brown on areas, this tells me the leak could of had oil and antifreeze from the intake. is this common?
what i am talking about is the leaks i showed you from the intake gaskets, i noticed dye in the area, that i pointed out, but the color is a little rusty color, which i am thinking is the antifreeze and oil leaking out from these bad gaskeets.
thanks, XXXXX XXXXX looking at these gaskets.
do you think these will be better quality then the dealers?
would it be possible if this type of leak cause random idle surges when i turn the car in morning?
are you familiar with gasket adhesive?
can i put this on to preven the gaskets from moving around when i put on the inake?
can i take a picture of my engine where i took the intake gasket out and please tell me if it looks normal. What are the purpose of those size holes, that go to the head.
was their a tsb on the valve cover gaskets that can cause any internal leaks from gasket to intake?
im nervious that lowering the manifold will move the gaskets. How can i prevent this. I dont see any grooves where the gaskets sit, it is just on a flat area.
oh ok, please explain to me how we are suppose to lower this down without the gaskets moving? how do the gaskets stay in place?
will this work? http://www.bowessealfast.com/p-588-permatex-82019-all-purpose-spray-adhesive-16-oz-aerosol-can.aspx
where exactly do i spray this sealeant, all over or just a part of it? please help me.
also when i put the rtv on the ends and put the ends on. do i let it dry before i proceed?
i noticed that device on the intake, the one with the two metal arms that open and close those little hinge windows. I noticed on of those arms was not connected, the clip was broken. I am assuming this was broken awhile so one side must of not been opening. What symptom would this be?
is it possible for people to make the computer not read codes. like a shady used car salesman.
Also, i used brake cleaner spray and still some hard gunk on the manifold. What is the best cleaner that is used to clean this good and safe for it? Please point me to the best.
so should i just clean the gasket area or even inside those holes and stuff? can i use acetone?
can i use acetone?
can i take it to the carwash and use the pressure washer thing to rinse the degreaser off?
thanks, i just want to be safe,
you think the pressure of car wash, can damage any of the gasket surface area?
had another question about the upper intake gaskets.
they seem stuck. how do i remove them and when i put the new ones, do i have to put adhesive to keep them stuck or will they stay stuck themself?
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well im talking about the upper manifold gaskets now, i think we were discussing the lower ones about the adhesive. right now the upper intake that i took out has the gaskets still on them, they even seem good, and the whole things seems tight on there. how to i remove them, they seem teflon?
the gasket kit came with a round ring. Where is this located on the manifold?
one question, i read that sometime anti-freeze can fall into the engine when removing these intakes. also that we should drain the oil and pour a quart of clean oil on the lifters to push the wetness or anti-freeze out. With the lower intake off, where should i pour this quart? do i pour it in the circles where gaskets are or the center ditch area?