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Ford Explorer 4x4 xlt: 2004 Ford explorer XLT 4.0 V6 vin K

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2004 Ford explorer XLT 4.0 V6 vin K over 200K.........will not drive, if in park, car starts for a minute and then rough idle after a minute, if I accelerate the car will not go over 3000 rpms. if I try to drive it, it will choke and die. I already check for vaccum leaks, replace all Oxigen sensors, EGR valve, spark plugs, new coil, SP cables, Disconnected all exhust system form CAT ( just in case it was plugged). Call ford but they said that this trucks after 200k the timing belt will go, but if the timing belt was bad how come Im able to accelerate the car in park up to 3000 rpms without the engine shaking or making explosion as indication of timing issues. I do not know what else to do before I spend on a new engine or new car
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.

greetings,

Does the engine make any noise? when was the last time the fuel filter was changed? can you check fuel pressure and take a fuel sample?can you check compression for each cylinder?did the engine recently overheat?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
No noise, car has never overheated, fuel filter changed, compression was checked everything normal, fuel injectors checked. Why you mentioned fuel sample?


Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.

I have seen an explorer before not run from fuel contaminated with water. I would make sure we have goof fuel pressure(30-40 psi) and the fuel sample does not show water or is not cloudy. These engines do have a complicated design with timing chains and valve timing, I could see why Ford dealer would say 200k check the timing. There are special tools to check, set and align the valve timing and in most cases with replacement or repairs the engine needs to come out. The cam sprockets do have any pin or lock so they can spin or slip(poor design)

Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.

good to check fuel sample in a clear glass/plastic container. If you let it sit it will separate. this is what high water content looks like, some samples can look very dark with other contaminates.

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Customer: replied 1 year ago.

I just drained the tank, put new gasoline in it, just to discard, same problem,


 


the question about timing issues is if that were the case would I be able to maintain a constant acceleration between 800 and 3000 rpms?


 


im able to control it up and down in that range and the engine runs mooth, but it does not go over 3000rpms, when i leave it idleling, the engine runs good for a minute or so and then starts to choke and dies, it seems like the gases choke the engine.

Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.

what is the fuel pressure?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

40 psi

Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.

what were the compression readings? Do you have access to a scanner that shows live data?I would like to check fuel trims and what the 02 sensors and MAF sensor is doing. I would check to see if the valve timing is off. If you pop off the valve covers you would be able to see when the engine is set to TDC on #1 cylinder.

Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.

if you can check the coolant temp sensor. I remember older explorers having running issues with bad coolant temp sensors.

Expert:  Ironmike replied 1 year ago.
where did you disconnect the exhaust? did you disconnect the y pipe/catalyst off the exhaust manifolds?

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