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Ford F150 FX4: 08 f150 wont start this is the codes stuck

 
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08 f150 won't start
this is the codes stuck in ecm P2110 P2104 P2107 I try to clear them but they won't clear

 

Country: United States
Make: Ford
Model: F150 FX4
Year: 2008
Engine: 5.4

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Submitted: 279 days and 5 hours ago.
Category: Ford
Value: $24
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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days and 5 hours ago.

Hello and Welcome to Justanswer, My name is XXXXX XXXXX X am here to try and assist your with your question.

In most case the codes P2110, P2104 and P2107 are set due to a failed electronic throttle body assembly and in most cases the correct repair is to replace the assembly.

In some cases these codes can set due to carbon build up on the throttle plate . Before you consider replacing the assembly, try disconnection the negative batter cable and then remove the throttle body and clean it as well as the throttle plate with some carb cleaner. Once you have done so, reinstall the cable and see if the codes reset, if so then this usually means the assembly is bad and needs replaced.

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Customer replied 279 days and 5 hours ago.

this truck was in the accident I'm the body shop who repaired I had one wire connecting to ECM damage I repaired already. The ecm has small dent in the plate cover. I'm afraid not to have bad ecm? if I unplug throttle body connectors it gives me imediatley additional codes, in my understanding the ecm reads problems that mean is ok? however it won't clear this codes in the memory p2110 p2104 p2107 which makes me a little bit skeptical about the problem, from my experience in the past.
I will take your advise and pull the throthle body out and clean it, hope will correct problem. If I will get the truck starting I will tip you up to $50 if that's ok. Will save me a towing bill and diagnostic fee from the dealer.
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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days and 5 hours ago.

Try the cleaning first, If theses codes are reseting after you clear the PCM, its likely the problem for these codes. The no start concerns me, usually even with a bad throtte body they will still start and run but only idle. Are you sure you have spark and injector pulse and the anti-theft isnt active? Also makes sure the spark plugs are not fuel fouled.

Customer replied 279 days and 4 hours ago.

I pull one of the spark plug out with the coil and check for the spark , but there is any, no spark! Also disconnect the fuel line and was under pressure, assuming has fuel, I don't have gage to test that. Alarm I don't think is on, I lock and unlock the door they open and lock normal, engine will turn normal.

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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days and 4 hours ago.

I would go back and recheck all your wiring , if it was wrecked it could be anything that is left loose and or damaged. Is the check engine light coming on with the key and going off while cranking. If not check the crank sensor wiring as well.

Customer replied 279 days and 4 hours ago.

when cranking the truck check engine is coming on and stays on for time key is turned to the start position.
I found a camshaft sensor wire damage I will repair that, and check the crankshaft wires too

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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days and 4 hours ago.

If its staying on itand not going out while cranking then its not seeing the crank shaft signel. If it has both signels it should go out while cranking. You may have found the problem. Im here if you need me.

Customer replied 279 days and 3 hours ago.

here is the update, before I pay you I need little bit more support.
I fix the camshaft wire, but did not crank the truck, I check the wires on the crankshaft they look good, what I did I press on the crankshaft sensor connector and it made that click, I crank the car, runs but only 4 cly the bank on the passenger side the way engine seats on the car, the way I know that I unplug all the coils from the driver side and was no difference on the idling.Gas pedal is basically dead , if you press on it, won't accelerate.
here is the list of the codes i'm getting now, I did not check them out, by the way I clean the throttle body in the mean time, but no difference.
p0353
p0354
p0355
p0356
p0358

p2104
p2107
p2110

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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days and 3 hours ago.

The top five codes mean that bank is not firing the coils, eaither you have no voltage to them or the PCM driver is bad, due to the fact it was wrecked I would suspect a wiring problem . The last 3 codes are all throttle body codes, if cleaning it first with the negative cable off didnt work .Then it has failed. Your getting very close.Ron41094.8065690625

Customer replied 279 days and 2 hours ago.

I check wires everything was visible no more wires damage.I check voltage to the all coils and injectors I have 12v , trying to start again, is turning and is firing for a second or two and dies again , it doesn't idle anymore. Clean one more time the throttle body with negative cable disconnected, but still no difference. Clear all the codes only codes left is p2110 p2107 p2104

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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days and 1 hours ago.

All these codes are throttle body codes and its likely bad but as I said before , the engine should still start and idle, are you sure the anti-theft isnt active? If it was it would not allow the injectors to pulse.

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Customer replied 279 days and 1 hours ago.

is not the alarm on , forget to press down the air box in top of the throttle , that's why was not idling.
right now idling but still give me this codes list.
p0353
p0354
p0355
p0356
p0358

p2104
p2107
p2110
I will get a throttle body put it, see what it does. Only think I'm afraid the ecm to be shot from the dented cover plate?
If so I still have to take it to the dealer, and I will ask them to program a used ecm which I already bought.

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Expert:  Ron replied 279 days ago.

Let me know. Im here all day tomarrow.

 
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