Thank you ron for such a quick response. Am I doing just a visual check on the two fuses, or do I need to use an ohm meter or something? I'm headed out to find them now, but I will check back in a few minutes to see if there is a specific way you want me to check them.
Its best to use a ohm meter or a test light.
Both fuses good with ohm meter. To check the voltage do I touch the post (small wire) with one lead (red) and ground the other lead?
I checked the smaller of the wires and it was getting a little over 12v. Nothing but a single click still. I jumped the old starter last night and it did spin. I replaced it anyway but just thought I should mention that to you. So both fuses check out with an ohm and there is at least 12v at the smaller post when key is cranked and held. Next?
don't know if it matters, but I got a little smoke when we held the key in crank position for a few seconds?? I didn't check the large post, but I will right now.
I need to work on my terminology. I crossed the two posts that have wires coming from off the starter, it sounds like the same click when I turn the key. Then I crossed the large post with the post that has only a wire showing between starter components and then it spins. When we say engage, do we mean it turns the motor? Cuz it does not turn the motor, or grind or anything like that. Just the whirring or winding sound from spinning. Hope I'm making sense Ron. Note: I tried pulling up on the gear shift and turning the key, and it actually tried to turn, sounding like a weak battery? Just for a second, and I couldn't get it to repeat no matter what I did with shifter. But that is the first time I got any reaction since after I first charged it when it was towed back, and it tried to start until I ran out of juice. The battery checked out good at an autozone, but I'm wondering.
I have to thank you again for such quick responses. I really appreciate it.
the cables were pretty bad, but there is a new clamp, and they appeared secure. I just poured some baking soda/water over them and one is soaking. I was moving the shifter around again and got reaction, not a full turn over, but more than a click. This has to be a clue, right?
I have to go pick up a truck right now because I have a route that has to be covered to morrow. I will reattach the cables when I return and try again. Can you give me a couple of steps to try this afternoon/evening. A sort of try this, if this, then this. I will be working on this truck into the wee hours of the morning as long as I have something to try and I certainly don't expect you to spend a whole day/night with me. So as much as you can squeeze into a couple of paragraphs, I 'll try them all and if you are available I'll update all along the way in case something gives you another idea.
Thank you for all your help, I'l be back at it in about 2 hours.
Good morning Ron,
I woke up this morning to this horrilbe thought in my head: It's out of oil! Checked it and barely a dark tip on the stick. Now I don't know if that could explain the slow stall while driving, but I'm not sure the driver (my son) would have noticed any particular guages or warnings. Besides the fact that it's obviously dangerous to run that low on oil, does this explain the symptoms in your experience? It did try to turn over 1 time after a charge, but could that be when it siezed up? Am I dealing with 2 problems ( 1 if you count stupidity as the single cause) I've added oil but I didn't want to do anything else without talking to you. Assuming it's the engine that is siezed, what can I do to see if it's salvageable? If I try to free it by turning it by hand, which direction do I turn it? What kind of tool will I need to try and turn it and I am even on the right track here?
I can barely turn it. I need to make sure I'm using the right sized socket or I'm going to strip the head. I was using an 18mm but shouldn't there be a standard size socket for a Ford?
So if it's barely turning, any tricks to loosening things up enough to get it to turn with the starter, and hope it will run however horribly? Can I overfill with oil on a very temporary basis? Any way to splash oil if I can't get it to run?
Ron, Thank you for all your help. I wish it could have had a happier ending but I am confident that if there had been any other problem you would have had me back on the road by now.
Maybe one last description of what I'm hoping to accomplish here. Do I want to turn the engine several revolutions? Do I turn it a tiny bit and try the key each time? When I finally determine that it's not going to break free for me, what is the next step? How do I decide whether to have this engine rebuilt, buy a junkyard motor, rebuild? new? Any last words of advice?
I am accepting the answer now and I will put some extra on for you. You have been great to work with. I like the last guy, and you have been head and shoulders above him. If there is any place to comment on your work, I will be sure to put in an excellent reference.