How JustAnswer Works:

  • Ask an Expert
    Experts are full of valuable knowledge and are ready to help with any question. Credentials confirmed by a Fortune 500 verification firm.
  • Get a Professional Answer
    Via email, text message, or notification as you wait on our site.
    Ask follow up questions if you need to.
  • 100% Satisfaction Guarantee
    Rate the answer you receive.

Ask Shawn Your Own Question

Shawn
Shawn, Auto Service Technician
Category: Ford
Satisfied Customers: 3756
Experience:  16 years experience Ford,Nissan and Honda dealership in all areas
Type Your Ford Question Here...
Shawn is online now
A new question is answered every 9 seconds

Starter keeps cranking after car is running

Resolved Question:

starter keeps cranking after car is running
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  Shawn replied 3 years ago.
Chat Conversation Started
Shawn :

Hi, Thank you for asking your question on JustAnswer, my name is XXXXX XXXXX I will be assisting you today with your question.

Customer :

Hi I am Mike

Shawn :

Hi Mike, the most common cause of the problem you are having is a defective starter relay, which is causing the starter to remain engaged.

Customer :

I have replaced that

Customer :

sorry about not telling you initialy

Shawn :

That is ok.

Shawn :

Here is the system wiring diagram

Full Size Image

Shawn :



















  • Starter Motor Remains Engaged and Runs with Engine




  • Battery cable touching S terminal (worn or mispositioned cable).




  • REPLACE or RELOCATE cable and REPLACE starter.




  • Inoperative starter motor .




  • REPLACE starter motor . SEE removal and installation procedure in this section.




  • Starter relay remains engaged.




  • REFER to Pinpoint Test B .


Customer :

The diagram did not come through. is there a place in the started cabling taht may be shorting the starter to be on. My bother said that their maybe a hard ware problem involving the ignition module

Shawn :

PINPOINT TEST B: CHECK FENDER APRON RELAY



B1 CHECK FENDER APRON RELAY



  • Transmission in PARK or NEUTRAL (automatic transmission), or clutch pedal fully depressed (manual transmission). Key in START.




  • Is relay housing ground OK?



Yes
GO to B2.


No
REPAIR ground. GO to B2 .


 



B2 CHECK VOLTAGE AT FENDER APRON RELAY START TERMINAL



  • Transmission in PARK or NEUTRAL (automatic transmission), or clutch pedal fully depressed (manual transmission). Key in START.



  • Check for voltage between fender apron relay start terminal and relay housing ground.




  • Is voltage OK? (12-12.45V)



Yes
GO to B3 .


 


No
Open circuit or high resistance exists in external circuit wiring or components. CHECK the following:



  • All circuit connections including plastic hard-shell connector at S terminal on starter solenoid to make sure it is not broken or distorted.

  • Ignition switch.

  • Park/neutral position switch or clutch pedal position switch .

  • Anti-theft contact.


 



B3 CHECK OUTPUT TERMINAL VOLTAGE



  • Transmission in PARK or NEUTRAL (automatic transmission), or clutch pedal fully depressed (manual transmission). Key in START.



  • Check for voltage at output terminal of fender relay.




  • Is voltage OK?



Yes
REFER to Symptom Chart in this section.


 


No
Worn or damaged fender apron relay. REMOVE and REPLACE relay.

Customer :

my daughter would leave the key in the run position

Shawn :

If anything you may have a defective ignition switch.

Customer :

You mean the module or the mechanical portion that holds the key

Customer :

I received the diagram thank you

Shawn :

Not the key and tumbler , but the actual ignition switch, inside the steering column. If you need replacement instructions I can send them for you.

Customer :

I is this what the ignition module attaches to

Customer :

could you send the instruction anyway. thank you

Shawn :

Ignition Switch


Ranger



  1. Disconnect battery negative cable.Remove attaching screws (2) and instrument panel steering column cover.

  2. Remove attaching screws (4) and instrument panel reinforcement plate.

  3. If equipped with an automatic transmission, remove PRND12 indicator cable attaching screw.

  4. Remove steering column to brake pedal support bracket attaching screws (2).

  5. Lower column until steering wheel rests on driver's seat.

  6. Remove ignition switch attaching screws.

  7. Disconnect wiring and remove ignition switch.

    To install ignition switch, reverse removal procedure.



Customer :

I have already done this

Customer :

no I did not. I will have to try this. I just replaced the ignation module. which does not need the steering colum to be droped

Shawn :

Ok, you were starting to scare me.

Customer :

This is a diagram i have not seen. I am not shure about the Ignition switch . This is as hard as walking someone through fixing a computer over the phone.

Shawn :

I understand completely.

Shawn :

The diagram is of the steering column without the plastic

Customer :

I will try this tomorrow. Thank you. how would I get a hold of you to let you know if it worked or not.

Customer :

does the Ignition switch have a moveable bayonet type lug on the top that alligns with the mechical portion of the key housing

Shawn :

You can respond back as you have been, and Please don't forget to click on the ACCEPT button so that I may get credit for my work, thanks. If it didn't work let me know.

Shawn :

Yes it slides back and forth

Shawn :

Ignition Switch, Blade Type


The ignition switch (11572) has blade-type terminals that engage with one multiple connector. The multiple connector is secured to the ignition switch by integral locking fingers.


The lock cylinder positions are ACC, LOCK, OFF, RUN and START. With column shift automatic transmissions, the lock cylinder key can be removed from the lock cylinder only when the shift lever is in PARK position and the key is in LOCK position. The ACC position operates while the steering and transmission systems remain locked. Turning the key to OFF position shuts off the engine without locking the steering or transmission systems.

Customer :

I have replace it already.

Shawn :

Here is a picture what the ignition switch looks like

Customer :

Yes I replaced that. I may have just made a mistake when I repaired the ground cable.With the information you gave me It will be a lot easier to find out what I did wrong.

Shawn :

Ok great! Please don't forget to click on the ACCEPT button so that I may get credit for my work, thanks. If it didn't work let me know.

Customer :

I have to leave. because my grand kids need to come home from the dance. I will let you know what the results are. Thank You again. You have been very helpful. I will gladly accept.

Shawn :

Awesome, and thank you very much!







Shawn, Auto Service Technician
Category: Ford
Satisfied Customers: 3756
Experience: 16 years experience Ford,Nissan and Honda dealership in all areas
Shawn and 11 other Ford Specialists are ready to help you

JustAnswer in the News:

 
 
 
Ask-a-doc Web sites: If you've got a quick question, you can try to get an answer from sites that say they have various specialists on hand to give quick answers... Justanswer.com.
JustAnswer.com...has seen a spike since October in legal questions from readers about layoffs, unemployment and severance.
Web sites like justanswer.com/legal
...leave nothing to chance.
Traffic on JustAnswer rose 14 percent...and had nearly 400,000 page views in 30 days...inquiries related to stress, high blood pressure, drinking and heart pain jumped 33 percent.
Tory Johnson, GMA Workplace Contributor, discusses work-from-home jobs, such as JustAnswer in which verified Experts answer people’s questions.
I will tell you that...the things you have to go through to be an Expert are quite rigorous.
 
 
 

What Customers are Saying:

 
 
 
  • AlvinC answered a question about my Ford truck that only someone with an in-depth knowledge of his subject would have known what was going on. Rich D USA
< Last | Next >
  • AlvinC answered a question about my Ford truck that only someone with an in-depth knowledge of his subject would have known what was going on. Rich D USA
  • Because of your expertise, you armed me with enough ammunition to win the battle with the dealer. They are installing a fuel filter and fuel pump at no charge to me. Molly USA
  • I needed help with my car on Saturday morning....got a response in 5 minutes, and it was the perfect solution. Thanks again to your service. Jason V. Kirkland, WA
  • I do know, after going though this with JustAnswer, that I can somewhat trust my mechanic but I will always contact you prior to going there. BR New Jersey
  • I would (and have) recommend your site to others I was quite satisfied with the quality of the information received, the professional with whom I interacted, and the quick response time. Thanks, and be sure that I'll be back whenever I need a question answered in a hurry. Stephanie P Elm City, NC
  • used your service this weekend with "Trecers" help. thank you ,thank you, thank you. replaced an A/C fan motor. Local Auto Zone had part. $15.00 "tracer" fee and $40.00 for parts, I saved several hundreds of dollers at a shop. i will recommend you and use you in the future. David L. Richmond, TX
  • 9 dollars, 2 hours of my time, and I drove away. Your diagnosis was right on the mark. Thank you so much. Phil Marysville, CA
 
 
 

Meet The Experts:

 
 
 
  • Ron

    ASE Certified Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    20942
    23 years with Ford specializing in drivability and electrical and AC. Ford certs and ASE Certs
< Last | Next >
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/FO/fordguy4u/2011-12-17_222940_HPIM1257.64x64.JPG Ron's Avatar

    Ron

    ASE Certified Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    20942
    23 years with Ford specializing in drivability and electrical and AC. Ford certs and ASE Certs
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/MU/muddyford/2012-6-13_1204_1.64x64.png Chris (aka- Moose)'s Avatar

    Chris (aka- Moose)

    Ford Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    22382
    16 years experience with Ford.
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/JM/jmcdo28/2012-2-23_01655_resized.64x64.jpg John Mc's Avatar

    John Mc

    Ford Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    5493
    19 years Ford Lincoln Mercury experience
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/wmarti7/2009-4-18_04332_Avatar.jpg Chuck's Avatar

    Chuck

    ASE Certified Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    1684
    33 Years Experience,Ford Senior Master,ASE Master,L1 Advanced Engine Performance
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/CR/crzydrvr00/2013-11-3_12123_246347.64x64.jpg Richard's Avatar

    Richard

    ASE Certified Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    1518
    12 years at a Ford Lincoln/Mercury and Jaguar dealer as a technician and shop foreman.
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/BA/baddad1/2014-4-1_23659_avatar.64x64.jpg Mike V.'s Avatar

    Mike V.

    Auto Service Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    789
    25 years experience on all makes and models, Licensed NYS Inspector.
  • http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/lostrider/2009-9-26_23144_php4VNWAA_c1PM1.jpg lostrider's Avatar

    lostrider

    Ford Technician

    Satisfied Customers:

    2940
    ASE Master Technician, Ford Senior Master Technician,Diesel certified, ASE Master, 22 yrs FORD exp.