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Which window is inop?
Passenger side, front door
Yes, neither swith works. There appears to be a ground wire that goes through a relay that is not working. There are 2 grounds, one works for the window going down, I can jumper to it for the window going up and make the window go up but the ground wire for going down does not seem to engage. I switched the relays, no success
Which switch was replaced, driver or passenger door?
The switch on the passenger side door was replaced
Pull your switch back out of the passenger door and leave it plugged up. Now use some jumper wires from ground to the white/yellow and tan/light blue wires. by pushing the jumpers into the back of the connector thus touching the pins. Now turn the key on and try the switch on the passenger door.
I did that, the light blue wire is the wire that doesn't seem to work.
It appears to be a ground. I am inside now and it is dark outside.
There are 7 wires
2 wires from the swith on the drivers side
2 wires that go to the motor
2 wires that appear to be ground and seem to be engaged by some sort of relay, this is the part i don't understand
the 2 wires that appear to be ground are also connected to the switch on the driver's side
one of the wires that is ground works fine and is for the down motion
the other one does not seem to work
if i manually jumper the motor and use the ground for the down motion, i can make the window go up
When your doing your jumper test at the motor, are you suppling an outside power or using the power from the switch?
I use the power from the switch
Is the power from the switch on the LB/BK wire or LB/RD wire?
Does the drivers window work perfect?
the drivers window works perfectly
the power to the switch on the passenger side was a greenish wire
a red and yelllow wire and yellow and white? go to the motor
I am sorry, i did not take any notes. I can look for a flashlight and go out and look
there is just one wire that was hot
there was 2 wires from the switch on the drivers side
I am looking at the ford wire diagram, so I know the wire colors, I just need to know if there is power on the LB/BK wire at the passenger door switch with the key on?
Yes, the wire in the middle is the hot wire and is hot when the key is on
If this wire is hot then you have no ground coming into the switch from the drivers door or no ground coming out of the switch to the motor. OHM test the wires from the switch on the passenger door to the motor and from the passenger switch to the drivers switch. Both wires to a window motor are grounded until you hit up or down and one wire goes hot for up and the other wire hot for down. All grounds come from the drivers door switch.
Using C609 Right Front Power window switch
1 is black and ground, 0 ohms
2 is white no ground
3 is yellow red stripe goes to motor, no ground
4 is gray with black stripe, hot when key is on
5 is bt blue red stripe ground, about 200 ohms
6 is red with yellow stripe goes to motor, no ground
7 is pink with blue stripe no ground
I can jumper 4 to 6 and 3 to 1 and window goes down
i can jumper 4 to3 and 6 to 1 and window goes up
On the switch, 2 and 3 are connected, no resistance
on switch 6 and 7 are connected, no resistance this and previous line when switch is not pressed
When I press switch for down, 4 and 7 have no resistance
I press switch for up, 4 and 2 have no resistance
down works with switch
up does not work with switch
I think I see what moose was saying, the white and yellow and tan and black serve as the ground for the motor and it goes through the switch on the drivers side. It appears I may have purchased the wrong switch. It is now 9:30, i will leave the computer on and check this in the morning. thanks
Since your missing the ground input, it does appear you replaced the incorrect switch since the inputs for the passenger side come out of the drivers side.
Thanks for your help, you are correct