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DTC 565 code. Checked sol purge solenoid by unplugging harness,

 
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DTC 565 code. Checked sol purge solenoid by unplugging harness, hooking up vacuum guage and starting engine. No vacuum. With engine running, plugged in harness and vacuum dropped. Solenoid is functioning. Truck runs OK until after warm up. MIL comes on while cruising. Then goes off and engine looses power(dramatically) does not immediately respond to trottle input until pressing the accelerator pedal all the way to the floor. Then engine runs fine again for awhile when this whole process begins all over again. 565 is the only code I see.

Submitted: 1352 days and 4 hours ago.
Category: Ford
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Expert:  Scottdagoalie replied 1352 days and 3 hours ago.

HiCustomer Thank you for asking your question on JustAnswer. The other Experts and I are working on your answer. By the way, it would help us to know:

-What year is your Ford?
-What model is your Ford?
-What type of engine is in your Ford?


Thank you again for trusting us with your problem. Please reply as soon as possible so that we can finish answering your question.

Customer replied 1352 days and 2 hours ago.

1995 Ford F150 4WD automatic with 302 engine. High milage but with no problems up until now. I also forgot to mention that at first when I saw 565, I did find a cracked vacuum line between the solenoid and the intake. I replaced the line and at the same time cleaned the MAF internal wire with electronics cleaner. The problem went away for a long time but now it's back. The fuel filler cap looks OK but I have no way of checking it. The oxygen sensor is original. As I ststed earlier, when the malfunction occurrs, the throttle is momentarily non-responsive and the engine lacks power.

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Expert:  Scottdagoalie replied 1352 days and 2 hours ago.

Here is the pinpoint test for the code.I have found that following these tests are the best way to get to the bottom of the problem.

On Board Diagnostics I A PCED

KD6 DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE (DTC) 565 OR 569: CHECK VPWR TO CANP

    • Open harness (VPWR or CANP).
    • Damaged CANP solenoid.
    • Shorted (power to ground) harness.
    • Damaged Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
  • DTC 565 or 569 indicates a failure in the CANP solenoid circuit.

    In a dual CANP system (7.0L Truck) DTC 565 refers to CANP1 and DTC 569 refers to CANP2.

    Possible causes:

  • Key on, engine off.
  • Disconnect appropriate CANP solenoid.
  • Measure voltage between VPWR at the CANP solenoid vehicle harness connector and battery ground.
Is the voltage greater than 10.5 volts?
Yes No
GO to KD7 . SERVICE open VPWR circuit. RECONNECT CANP solenoid. RERUN Quick Test.

KD7 CHECK CANP RESISTANCE

  • Key off.
  • Disconnect appropriate CANP solenoid.
  • Measure CANP solenoid resistance.
Is resistance between 30 and 90 ohms?
Yes No
GO to KD8 . REPLACE CANP solenoid. RERUN Quick Test.

KD8 CHECK CONTINUITY OF CANP CIRCUIT

  • Key off.
  • Appropriate CANP solenoid disconnected.
  • Disconnect Powertrain Control Module (PCM). Inspect for damaged or pushed out pins, corrosion, loose wires, etc. Service as necessary.
  • Install breakout box, leave PCM disconnected.
  • Measure resistance between Test Pin 11, 15, 31 or 54 (refer to pinpoint test schematic ) at the breakout box and CANP circuit at the CANP solenoid vehicle harness connector.
Is resistance less than 5.0 ohms?
Yes No
GO to KD9 . SERVICE open circuit. REMOVE breakout box. RECONNECT all components. RERUN Quick Test.

KD9 CHECK CANP CIRCUIT FOR SHORT TO GROUND

  • Key off.
  • Appropriate CANP solenoid disconnected.
  • Breakout box installed, PCM disconnected.
  • Disconnect Scan Tool from Data Link Connector (if applicable).
  • Measure resistance between Test Pin 11, 15, 31 or 54 (refer to pinpoint test schematic ) and Test Pins 40, 46 and 60 at the breakout box.
Is each resistance greater than 10,000 ohms?
Yes No
GO to KD10 . SERVICE short to ground. REMOVE breakout box. RECONNECT all components. RERUN Quick Test.

KD10 CHECK CANP CIRCUIT FOR SHORT TO POWER

  • Key off.
  • CANP solenoid disconnected.
  • Breakout box installed, PCM disconnected.
  • Scan Tool disconnected from Data Link connector.
  • Measure resistance between Test Pin 11, 15, 31 or 54 (refer to pinpoint test schematic ) and Test Pins 37 and 57 at the breakout box.
Is each resistance greater than 10,000 ohms?
Yes No
REPLACE PCM. REMOVE breakout box and Scan Tool. RECONNECT all components. RERUN Quick Test. SERVICE short to power. REMOVE breakout box and Scan Tool. RECONNECT all components. RERUN Quick Test.

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Customer replied 1352 days and 2 hours ago.

I do not have a breakout box. Where could I get one? Does the throttle response issue actually lend itself to the CANP malfunction?

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Expert:  Scottdagoalie replied 1352 days and 2 hours ago.


Any Ford dealer will have a break out box.You can also check the wires to the PCM directly if you can't find a break out box. The throttle response is likely not related to the CANP unless it has an electrical issue that could be feeding through to other circuits.I suggest repairing the CANP and then retesting for throttle concern.

On Board Diagnostics I A PCED

Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector Pin Usage—5.0L MFI
F-Series/Bronco
Pin Circuit Wire Color Application Abbreviation
1 37 Y Keep Alive Power KAPWR
3 679 GY/BK Programmable Speedometer/Odometer Module (+) PSOM (+)
4 382 Y/BK Ignition Diagnostic Monitor IDM
6 676 PK/O Programmable Speedometer/Odometer Module (-) PSOM (-)
7 354 LG/R Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor ECT
8 238 DG/Y Fuel Pump Monitor FPM
9 915 PK/LB Data (-) DATA (-)
10 883 PK/LB A/C Cycling Switch ACCS
11 200 BR Secondary Air Injection Diverter Solenoid AIRD
16 259 O/R Ignition Ground IGN GND
17 658 PK/LG Self-Test Output/Malfunction Indicator Lamp STO/MIL
20 57 BK Case Ground CSE GND
21 264 W/LB Idle Air Control Solenoid IAC
22 926 LB/O Fuel Pump FP
23 310 Y/R Knock Sensor KS
24 330 Y/LG Power Steering Pressure Switch PSP
25 743 GY Intake Air Temperature Sensor IAT
26 351 BR/W Reference Voltage VREF
27 352 BR/LG EGR Valve Position Sensor EVP
28 914 T/O Data (+) DATA (+)
29 74 GY/LB Heated Oxygen Sensor HO2S
30 481 GY/Y Clutch Pedal Position Switch CPP
31 101 GY/Y Canister Purge Solenoid CANP
33 360 BR/PK EGR Vacuum Regulator Solenoid EVR
36 929 PK Spark Output SPOUT
37 361 R Vehicle Power VPWR
40 570 BK/W Power Ground PWR GND
45 358 LG/BK Manifold Absolute Pressure MAP
46 359 GY/R Signal Return SIG RTN
47 355 GY/W Throttle Position Sensor TP
48 209 W/P Self-Test Input STI
49 89 O Heated Oxygen Sensor Ground HO2S GND
51 190 W/O Secondary Air Injection Bypass Solenoid AIRB
56 395 GY/O Profile Ignition Pick-Up PIP
57 361 R Vehicle Power VPWR
58 555 T Injector Bank 1 (Controls Engine Cylinder Numbers 1, 4, 5 and 8) INJ BANK 1
59 556 W Injector Bank 2 (Controls Engine Cylinder Numbers 2, 3, 6 and 7) INJ BANK 2
60 570 BK/W Power Ground PWR GND

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