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2003 f350: cranks..wont start..wouldnt start..drained fuel filter

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2003 f350 6.0 ltr diesel cranks but won't start.
changed batteries, started and seemed to run fine.turned it off to hookup trailer
and it wouldn't start again. drained fuel filter on frame
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: Ford
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
is fuel getting to the fuel filter up top ? and can you hear the injectors buzz when you turn the key on ?
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
i can hear something buzzing
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.

your injectos should buzz each time the key turns on and if its buzzing that means your injectors and circuits are prob ok and now we need to know fuel pressure or if you have a scanner or can get a scanner we need to know the icp pressure

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
no scanner
where would i get one
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
well a scanner that can access and view pids would be very expensive but they can be found at autopart stores but the tool trucks have some good ones but there pricey. then can you take off the fuel filter cover and turn the key on and see if the bowl fills up ? the filter under the hood
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
i opened the drain plug on the top filter also but nothing came out
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.

are you talking about the allen screw on the top side of the filter housing ?

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
yes
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
thats where our ford tool screws in at. can you get the top off ?
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
i haven't tried ican try tomorrow
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
ok let me know if it fills up with fuel you can remove the top climb ib the truck and peek through the hood and windshield and you can watch from the key so you dont spill fuel everywhere
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
ok talk to you tomorrow pm
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
ok goodnight
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
removed top off fuel filter on engine

cranked motor fuel overflowed
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
removed top off fuel filter on engine

cranked motor fuel overflowed

replaced cover still won't start
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
ok if your injectors are buzzing and the fuels overflowing you have a sync issue (cam sensor, crank sensor ) or you have a high or low pressure oil problem to check for low pressure you need to remove the oil filter let oil drain out and theres a spring type valve you need to press the spring part down with a long screw driver is what i use anything that pushes it down will work and have someone turn the engine over and see if oil fills the bowl up and if it does then low pressure is ok
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
ok low pressure seems to be ok
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
ok now we need a scanner to view the icp psi pid to find out if its a high pressure oil leak or a sync issue
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
what kind of scanner do i need

auto zone has one for about $60

that will give me codes

will this work
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
if the scanner will monitor and view the icp psi pid and the ipr % pid and the ficm sync and the sync pid then yeah get it but if not then you'll waist your money you need to be able to view live pids
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
icp over 450

cmp ckp sync = no

p2617 ckp signal output circuit open
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
thats a code for the crank sensor its behind the a/c compressor but that going out could cause your problem was that the only code ?
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
p0000 no dtc present

p1000 obd 11

p0603 internal cont mod kam error

cmp fault = no
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.

p0603 test kinda leans towards pcm do you want the steps for each one of the codes and if you can do the test right that will lead you to your problem.if youhad access to another 2003 diesel you could swap the pcm's and try it

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
is this something i would be able to fix?
if so yes
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
Z: Continuous Memory Failure Z: Introduction

Z1 PRELIMINARY DIAGNOSIS FOR DTCS P0603 AND P0606

    Note: Refer to the PCM and component connector pin numbers at the beginning of this pinpoint test.

    Note: DTC P0606 may be set due to an intermittent engine oil temperature (EOT) sensor connector connection.

  • Possible causes:
    • battery or PCM has been disconnected
    • battery cables loose or poor connection
    • battery discharged
    • EOT sensor connector intermittent connection (DTC P0606 only)
    • open in KAPWR circuit
    • blown fuse
    • PCM
  • Check for other codes.
  • Key on, engine off.
  • Clear DTCs.
  • Cycle key off, then on.
  • Retrieve Continuous DTCs.
Are DTCs P0603 or P0606 present?
Yes No
GO to Z2 . Unable to duplicate condition. CHECK for loose connections, damaged or corroded pins. WIGGLE harness attempting to recreate fault. REFER to Section 3 for driveability concerns.

Z2 CHECK FUSE

    Note: Refer to wiring schematic for fuse number.

  • Key off.
  • Measure voltage between KAPWR fuse and battery ground.
Is battery voltage present on both sides of the fuse?
Yes No
GO to Z3 . REPAIR short to ground. RESTORE the vehicle. CLEAR DTCs and RETEST the system.

Z3 CHECK FOR VOLTAGE TO PCM

  • Disconnect the PCM body harness electrical connector.
  • Measure the voltage between PCM body harness connector pins 46, 34 and ground.
Is battery voltage present?
Yes No
CHECK for loose connections, damaged or corroded pins. WIGGLE harness attempting to recreate fault. CLEAR the DTCs and REPEAT the self-test. If DTC P0603 or P0606 is present again, INSTALL a new PCM. REPAIR open in the circuit. RESTORE the vehicle. CLEAR DTCs and RETEST the system.

 

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
thanks for your help
i can't find an accept button
Expert:  fordman312009 replied 5 years ago.
its right here what did you find out ?
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