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I am thinking about buying a varment rifle ar kit from blackthorn.

 
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I am thinking about buying a varment rifle ar kit from blackthorn. Is this a good option for someone to build a varment or is this company selling cheap trash?

 



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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied 300 days ago.

Good afternoon,

I do not have any personal experience with this kit, but the reviews have been hit or miss. It seems that some people like it and it works well for them, and some people feel that the parts are inferior, are of poor quality, or just don't fit together correctly. Some of the things I've read talk about small parts missing from the kits, or the parts have machine burrs on them, or the customer service is terrible when trying to get an issue fixed.

When a product review is 50/50, that is usually a signal to me to stay away.

I hope that this helps....

Jim

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Customer replied 298 days and 20 hours ago.

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please do not be offended but I would like to talk to someone that has purchased one from blackthorn. I am a person that likes to get the personal info from the person that had direct dealings...from the horses mouth kinda guy. I do appreciate the info you gave me.

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied 298 days and 20 hours ago.

There are only a small number of experts here and I'm not sure if any of them have actually purchased one of those kits. I will opt out though to allow another expert to step in.

Best of luck.

Customer replied 298 days and 20 hours ago.

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Expert:  H.Callahan replied 298 days and 17 hours ago.

Hello, my name is XXXXX XXXXX X would like to help here.

Blackthorne has operated under a couple of different names in a relatively short period of time -- Hesse and Vulcan. Every company name they have operated under, including Blackthorne has had a bad reputation. They do not manufacture anything, they purchase parts from AR parts manufacturers. While the parts are not totally junk, they are not top drawer quality, either. Plus the parts are not consistant. They buy whatever they can as cheaply as possible, so some parts may be decent, others, not so much. If you get lucky, you get a set of acceptable parts. If not, you have problems. Also their quality control is not good. Bad assembly and bad parts get through their lines often.

However, most of the problems are fixable, but sometimes new parts are needed. I guess it boils down to what you are looking for. If you are looking for a quality product that will be up and running with minimal problems, then you should probably pass. If you are a tinkerer and don't find fiddling correcting their problems to save $100 or so on parts, then you can get a workable gun in the end. However, it will probably not be as good of quality as if you had spent a bit more and got good stuff.

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Expert:  TOM308 replied 298 days and 15 hours ago.

Hi,

One of the best parts kits I have used was from Model 1 Sales. It was an A3 flat top upper with a free floated 24" fluted stainless steel heavy barrel. I lapped the bore before shooting with a bore mop and 600 grit compound. After 10 rounds I shot for group size and the first 5 shot group was .441" at 100 yards. You can't ask for much more. I used the hand guards shown on the bottom gun with the Shaw 1-8 twist heavy barrel.

http://www.model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=171

These are worth the money and excellent kits. I never bothered with the Blackthorne because of too many bad reviews.

Tom

 
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