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I am not sure but what looks like this lever action 38 caliber

 
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I am not sure but what looks like this lever action 38 caliber was made by Marlin. It has a seriel number of(NNN) NNN-NNNNon the trigger guard. Is this information correct?

 



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I have not tried anything. It is an old rifle and I am trying to I.D. it.

Submitted: 375 days and 8 hours ago.
Category: Firearms
Value: $23
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied375 days and 8 hours ago.


ProactiveShooters :

Good afternoon,

How are you today?

Customer :

fine and you

ProactiveShooters :

Doing great, thank you.

ProactiveShooters :

So I just want to make sure that I understand your question. You have a Marlin lever action rifle, .38 caliber and you are trying to identify the model number?

Customer :

are you able to tell me anything about it. I'm not really sure its a Marlin. the gun is old and the markings are not very clear.

ProactiveShooters :

Can you tell me what markings you can see...even if just partial words.

Also, do you mean .308 caliber, not .38?

Customer :

On the reciever it is clearly marked 38 cal. The rifle is very heavy and it has a hex barrel . There is also a marking ican make out that reads 38 WCF.

ProactiveShooters :

ok...anything that says Marlin?

Customer :

That's the hard part. What i could see looked like Mar and the rest is unrecognizable

ProactiveShooters :

ok...let me take a look at something...one moment please

Customer :

I have a .38 special revolver and I was wondering if this is the same ammo that this rifle will use?.

ProactiveShooters :

I'm guessing that the .38 you are seeing is either .38-55 WCF or .338.....neither which is the same as your .38 spl. revolver

Customer :

The two markings, .38cal and 38WCF are the clearest of all the markings on the rifle...

ProactiveShooters :

Ok...and you think that you can see a MAR ?

Customer :

Yes Sir...

Customer :

That was on the plate behind the hammer.

ProactiveShooters :

Any chance that you can post a picture of the gun here?

Customer :

I'll have to take a picture and download it to may computer. May take a while. Is there any way I can get back to you directly? Later on?

Customer :

I'd like to get back with you because you know so for what i'm talking about.

ProactiveShooters :

Yes, you can return to this same question later and upload the photo. You should receive an email with the link.

Customer :

Thanks, I have to leave and I don't know when I will be able to return. I'll try not to be too long......

ProactiveShooters :

Take your time. I will be notified when you reply.

Customer :

I found some more markings on the barrel. It is not a Marlin but it is a Winchester Repeater

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied375 days and 7 hours ago.

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Customer replied375 days and 6 hours ago.

I have found some more markings on the barrel. It is not a Marlin but a Winchester Repeater New Haven, Conn. It was pattened in 1866.

Customer replied375 days and 6 hours ago.

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Customer replied375 days and 6 hours ago.

Knowing that it is a Winchester is the .38 Spl. ammo the same that this rifle would use? Can the vintage be know by the seriel number((NNN) NNN-NNNN?

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied375 days and 6 hours ago.

Ok...I had assumed that it was a Winchester rather than a Marlin.

First off, no the .38 Spl. ammo is not the same and cannot be used in that rifle.

The pictures didnt come through. Can you retry?

What we need is to look around the gun again, from the butt to the barrel.....you should see a model name/number marked on it.

Customer replied375 days and 5 hours ago.

I don't know what I am doing wrong with the picture thing, but I can't seem to get it right. I clicked on the paper clip and followed instructions and everthing goes blank.

I can not find any other markings on the rifle other than what I have already sent you.

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied375 days and 5 hours ago.

You can email them XXXXX@XXXXXX.XXX and ask them to forward them to me. I'm not sure why the paper clip is not working.

Customer replied375 days and 5 hours ago.

they are on their way....

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied375 days and 4 hours ago.

ok

Customer replied375 days and 2 hours ago.

Did you recieve the pictures?

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied375 days and 2 hours ago.

Not yet....I will get back to you when they arrive.

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied374 days and 23 hours ago.

Saw the pictures. Its definitely an early Winchester. Now we just need to figure out which model year. Can you check and confirm the serial number again please....

Customer replied374 days and 11 hours ago.

I did make a mistake on that seriel number. It is actually 584087B instead of(NNN) NNN-NNNN

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied374 days and 10 hours ago.

OK..that B may be very helpful.

Look on the top of your rifle and match up the area with the photo below. Tell me if you see any writing like what is pictured.

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Customer replied374 days and 10 hours ago.

That is what I thought said it was a Marlin. Now that you showed me that picture I can make out that it is the exact markings. I tried to get a picture of it but it to send to you ,but it didn't show up good enough to be seen.

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied374 days and 10 hours ago.

Ok, great!

It took us a while but we figured it out! We had to work hard for that one. Thank you for answering all of my questions. The B in the serial number is XXXXX made me think it was an 1873 model.

Alright....so you have a Winchester model 1873, Third model rifle, in .38 WCF caliber. By the serial number, your gun was made in 1904.

For your Winchester, the following current Blue Book values apply. Retail prices may be 20% higher:

New in box/perfect --100% condition - $ N/A

Mint condition --------98% condition - $ N/A

Excellent condition -- 95% condition - $ 7500

Very Good+ condition -- 90% condition- $ 6300

Very Good condition ------ 80% condition - $5500

Good+ condition ------------70% condition - $4500

Good condition --------------60% condition - $3750

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An average model 1873 (20% - 30% condition) is currently valued at about $1000 - $1650

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A below average model 1873 (10% to 20% condition) is currently valued about about $750 - $1000

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I hope that this helps! Thanks for using Just Answer!


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Customer replied374 days and 9 hours ago.

Thank You very much for your help. You have been very patient with me. I am sorry to keep you on line for so long with me. I assume that the rifle is a 1873 vintage and it is a .38 caliber?

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Expert:  ProactiveShooters replied374 days and 8 hours ago.

Its been my pleasure to try to help you with your question....no worries about the time. That's what I'm here for.

1873 is the model year, yours was made in 1904.

The caliber as I said is .38 WCF, not .38 Special.

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