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Basically, what should have happened is that the LLC would not file a return. Instead, it would be included on your 1041 for the trust (1040 if revocable living trust). This is because the LLC is a disregarded entity.
You need to respond to the IRS, and show them that you erroneously filed a form 1065. Then, amend your applicable return to reflect the sale properly
Well I was informed by another expert there to file the 1065 because that's who received the 1099-S. He said if I didn't file that in connection with the the FEIN listed on the 1099-S, the IRS would flag it. I've never filed anything for the Trust before. Will that be an issue, and what about the Trust not having the same information listed on the 1099-S?
No, that's not an issue. The trust doesn't file its own return unless it is a irrevocable trust.
If you have a living trust, then you simply file on your 1040.
If there's only one member...there's no need to file form 1065
How do I respond to the IRS stating that I erroneously filed the 1065? Just a letter? A special form?
Have you received a notice from them?
Regarding this return?
Yes, it's a living trust.
So you will file a 1040X and include the sale on your personal tax return. The LLC is disregarded, and then so is the trust.
It all flows to you
Yes, I received a $2k penalty for late filing of the 1065.
I'm confused then about how the IRS deals with the 1099. Won't they come after the LLC saying, "you didn't file"?
I would respond to that letter. You will file an amended return, but there will be no change in your taxable income as you paid the same under the 1065
No, and if they did you would simply show them that you did file, and that it's a disregarded entity
Well I haven't yet completed my individual return. That's due shortly (extension).
I can't really respond to the letter. It's just a penalty assessment, say pay up.
Well then, include the amounts on your 1040. Then, when you respond to that letter include your 1040
Yes, you can - because you are disputing the penalty
Is there a special form to dispute? Or just a letter?
No special form. Just a letter.
What about how the IRS deals with the 1099? Won't they come after the LLC saying, "you didn't file"?
No, they won't - and if they did, you can show that you did file and that would be the end of it
Oh boy. It's too bad I was led astray previously. Ok, I think I understand. If I have any followup questions related to this, how can I address them directly to you?
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But, for future reference you only file a 1065 if you have a partnership, or an LLC with more than 1 member
Yes, thank you. I understand that now. It's unfortunate the other expert didn't know or clarify that.
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I would like to respond to the IRS sooner rather than later showing that erroneous filing. You mentioned attaching my personal return to the response letter for the penalty, but if I haven't filed that yet, what do I say?
Explain that you are filing the sale on your personal return, as this was a single member LLC
Ok, thank you. So saying that I erroneously filed the 1065 basically removes the return?
The IRS will respond to that letter. You could file an amended partnership return and zero everything out. Just fill out the same form and check the "amended" box
Should I submit the amended return along with the letter? Does all this nonsense raise any audit flags?
No, it does not raise audit flags. Basically, even if it did it's fine because you are accounting for the transaction and paying the tax.
You can submit the zeroed out return with the letter, yes.
If I'm mentioning that the sale will be reported on my personal return, do I include my SSN?
I guess I'm just paranoid.
Don't be. This sort of thing happens ALL the time.
Ok, thank you. :) I appreciate all your help. I feel much better.
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