You state that you have had many lawyers and hearings -- has the magistrate judge who awarded him temporary custody been made aware of the earlier award of custody to you by the other county judge?
Has the guardian ad litem issued a report stating where the GAL believes the children should live (in many instances the GAL will make a recommendation to the court regarding primary physical custody -- was such a report issued yet or is one going to be issued by the GAL?) -- also, which judge appointed the GAL ?
yes i informed magistrate judge in gwinnett but she ignored that amd his bonds he is out on and in forsyth casa recommendations were to give me primary physical custody and the judge awarded it to me and the gal in gwinett that was given to us was from me requesting our divorce case to be transferred to juvenile with the appointment of a gal because i thouht they would see what my husband is doung like the juvenile courts in forsyth saw and give me back my children
Hello again Ashley -
This makes no sense to me why this happened in the first place. When your ex filed for temporary custody in the other county, your lawyer should have filed a Motion to Vacate Custody order and in that motion there should have been a written request to the Gwinnett magistrate judge to accept the earlier order of the court that granted you primary custody already. A second court in the same state is legally bound to give the order of another state judge "full faith and credit" and the second judge in Gwinnet should have honored the earlier order and returned the children to you. The only thing I can think of here is that your lawyers did not make a formal written request at that time for the second judge to honor the orders of the first judge (was that ever done? Was such a motion or demand ever filed on your behalf? -- if the order was just mentioned to the judge, then she was free to do whatever she wanted because no one basically slammed it in front of her and made the formal legal request / argument that she is BOUND by the orders of the first court judge and she should have issued orders in compliance with the original orders). If the formal request had been made, about the only reason that she is permitted to disregard those orders is if there is proof that you were abusing the children (and I mean PROOF -- pictures, police reports -- not just taking the word of your ex regarding your treatment of the children).
Under these circumstances, I can make a few suggestions and hopefully one of the methods I suggest will force the second judge to back away from this case and put it back in the hands of the first judge and court who made the original orders granting custody to you. Your choices are as follows (a) have your attorney, or if you do not have an attorney you can do this yourself -- write up a Motion to Vacate all Gwinnett County custody orders and request that the Gwinnett county court file the orders issued by the earlier judge granting custody to you (a copy of the order should be attached to the written motion) -- if you must do this yourself, you should be able to get a blank motion form from the clerk's office at the Gwinnett court but if they do not have any blank motion forms, you can write this up from scratch yourself (using earlier motions in the case to follow the formatting of the motion request is usually the best idea -- all motions are set up the same using numbered paragraphs to explain to the court what it is you are requesting), Here is a link to the Georgia courts self help website with Q & A's and links to many forms http://www.georgiacourts.org/aoc/selfhelp/faq.html (if you do not find a generic motion form here then please ask at the clerk of courts office in Gwinnett - they may have them there behind the counter -- every court is different) -- (b) if you file this motion and the Gwinnett county judge still refuses to honor the court orders issued by the earlier judge in this matter, then you or your attorney will have to appeal that decision to the appeals court for your jurisdiction (the appeals court can overturn her decisions and force the matter back to the original court and judge) -- OR (c) you can certainly try filing a complaint against the Gwinnet judge with the state commission on judicial conduct / misconduct. Here is a link to their website where you can get contact information and complaint information -- http://www.gajqc.com/ You should be very specific regarding the Gwinnett judge and tell the commission that your issue is that there was an earlier order in place and she failed to honor that decision or even consider it (enclose copies of the earlier decision and then Gwinnet judge order regarding the same topic -- the child custody).
I hope that all of this helps and I do wish you the best in getting your kids back. You will at least get a valid reason why the Gwinnett judge has refused to honor the first court order (she will have to give a reason to her superior judges if asked and you may be able to counter that reason if it is not valid). Please let me know if you have any further questions.
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thank you so much that makes much more sense than anything ive heard how much would you charge to write the motion for me i cant affod a lawyer again i just had to pay his lawyer 750 afyter just paying 1880 in jan and legal hasnt came thru for me our next hearing on the temp custody order in gwinnett me is monday july 8 and no one will listen to me or help me. my husband has attacked aEvery source of help that i had even my own family he goes around telling everyone the court gave him custody because i ran off and left them but i didnt i took thenm with me when i left him. he promised he would take them from me and make my life hell if i didnt go home to him and he has done just that but i cant go back and let my kids see him abuse me and be in constant fear my daughter even told the school counselor that her dadddy hits her mommyand the same counselor has taken his side in court even though she stated that in her notes
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