Hi. I'm online and happy to answer your question today.
Are you treating her? What is your training?
How is the color vision in the affected eye?
Hi- just wanted another pair of eyes on this unusual case. I am an optometrist She is my patient.
No- pupils were normally reactive
So. To review. Healthy, young female, no significant PMHx, No drug use, no trauma, no other physical findings/complaints, with completely normal eye exam. She has a history of mild amblyopia but there is a sudden decrease in vision as well as a global decrease in HVF indices ( what program did you use, 30-2?). Do I have it correct so far?
Yes the 30-2, I was careful in history she insists no trauma or drug use, and looks healthy
Did you check color vision? Perhaps with Ishihara plates?
No this was not done
Ok. Red/green is not the best test in these cases anyway.....
The first thing that comes to mind is retrobulbar optic neuropathy. This could also be caused by MS.
I do have the old farnsworth d-15
That would good.....
Other things in the DDx are toxic optic neuritis, posterior scleritis, rare rod/cone or cone/rod dystrophies, functional vision loss and then we get into just plain guessing.....
But that would be a reschedule- Curious about what options come to mind- Considering referral to neuroophthalmologist
Well we have no pain, sign of inflammation, monocular onset, etc, which makes it tough
I would consider an MRI with contrast of the brain and orbits and referral to an ophthalmologist. Neuro ophthalmologist is a good idea but it wouldn't hurt to get a second pair of eyes on the issue before trying to get into a busy neuro opth guy.....
There may be a mild RAPD present....they amblyopia alone should have caused at least one log unit of a defect.....
Possible, of course. We are in a small town, no ophthalmologist, and a XXX XXXX XXXXX to one- either general or neuro-
I'm a retina doc so I get a lot of optic nerve stuff.....I like to think of myself as the "poor man's neuro-ophthalmologist :o)
With the brown vision- does that make you think of anything particular
I'm the only retina guy for an hour in any direction....so I know all about small towns ;)
Makes me think of optic nerve problems......
Well, since it appears pre-chiasmal, the options aren't that great for someone her age
I'd try to get a MRI and then take it from there. A FA would may also be of some help, although it likely will come back normal in this case.
Ok- makes since. Thanks
And stigmata of neurofibromatosis?
ok....just a thought.
The sudden onset has me worried, of course,
Sorry I couldn't be of more help in this very interesting case. If you have a chance drop me a note and let me know what you find.
I would like that- how would I do that?
Ya, me too. Try to get her in for another look see ASAP.
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What State are you in? I'm in Wisconsin
My sister lives in Santa Barbara.....
Pleasant there, I hear- I'm in the middle of the desert, nearest town palm springs
sounds hot.....take care. The lady is lucky to be treated by a concerned Optometrist like you :o)