I don't understand what you mean when you say that it seems like there is extra lid present, but the lid looks sunken in. How can there be more tissue but it is sunk in? Could you help to better understand what you mean?
the lid part near the lashes is about three times the size of the other one.. but the skin follows the contour of the bone..
i can attach a picture.. it't hard to explain i guess
i'm taking one to send
ok. Let me check out the picture. brb
Ok. It's true....a picture is worth a thousand words!
Are you still there?
yea.. i have no irritation or bacteria or anything.. but it's been this way for over a month
its much much better in the morning but gets worse and worse throughout the day
Can you take another picture that has the light shining on both eyes at once. The picture you sent has ?sunlight (you must be West of me :) on your left eye only...can you get it on both eyes, or if not, on the right eye so I can compare things a little better?
yes i can..but it will take a min
and i'm about as far west as you can get
My sister lives in Santa Barbara.....California is a wonderful place. Only problem? It is filled with Californians =)
working on the picture?
ok....I didn't read the above...nevermind
got it brb
ok.....got two of the first one....brb
Ok. Good pictures
There is one of two things going on. Either one eye is being pulled back into your orbit a bit or the other one is being pushed out.
i think its being pulled back.. but the eye seems normal..just the lid is getting sucked in
There is an easy test your ophthalmologist can do with an instrument called a hertel exophthalmometer to determine if this is the case
Your lids etc, as you said, look otherwise normal, as does your lid position.
There can be a number of causes for this, from a vascular abnormality, swelling of the muscles around the eye (graves disease), nasty words (like tumors), etc. In any event, I agree with you -- there is a distinct difference in the tissue volume between your left and right orbit which is easy to see by your upper eyelid crease position.
well i got referred to an ophthalmologist that specialized in surgery or something like that today..but they said it will take two months for the referral to go through
so you think there is definately something causing it.. because a lot of people/drs have said..stress.. dehydration, allergies etc
Dehydration would, in my mind, affect both orbits. Stress is the fall back reason, and that makes no sense to me. Allergies is a distinct possibility, and could affect one side only, but you didn't report any other allergy symptoms......I
I'd feel more comfortable if you had an ophthalmologist give you a good going over and then, if nothing is found, blame it on stress, not being nice enough to your husband or boyfriend (or both ;) etc.
so i guess i just need to wait two months for my referral to come through?
I thought you were in the USA. Do you need a referral to see an ophthalmologist?
i also have a piece of glass stuck in the same side of my head.. it's bundled up in a bunch of nerves..but it's from 6 years ago.. do you think it could be related?
no.. my eye doctor put one through today..but i have to wait for them to schedule me
i also just turned 30 on monday..that's why everyone is jumping straight to stress
Two months seems like a long time to me. Do I think this is an emergency? No. But you would think you could get in within 4 weeks. Heck, I am the only retina specialist within aXXXXXand non-emergent patients can get into see me in just over 3 weeks.
well i hope that's true.. she said all i can do is wait
I graduated medical school when I was 30....so no sympathy from this side of the computer screen for being so "old" :o)
the reasons you gave.. it would make sense that it would get better every morning and get bad every night?
lol.. i'm not worried about it..they just all say i am
I would put a vascular malformation higher on my list as possibilities due to that finding.....
how do you fix that.. surgery?
or you cant
First you find where and why there is a malformation. Then, if needed, yes, surgery.
its just so weird that it happened all of a sudden..
These things do happen though. Thinking back do you thing it is that you are just noticing it more now? A good way to evaluate this would be to look at old pictures.
i did.. it wasn't there before
literally one day it happened
Ya. It needs to be worked up. I'm glad you didn't buy the "it's stress" diagnosis.
alright well i guess i'll just wait then
Ok. One more thing. In the old pictures did both eyes look like the left one does now or the right one?
i can send you an old pick
my head's turned to the side in the shot.. so they do look a lil different from each other
and the makeup is different too. Nothing gets past us eye docs =)
It looks like your left eye has lost volume
yea..but it did it over night which is what i don't understand.. my eye was really itchy the night it happened too..if that means anything
Itchy makes one think of allergies, but then the area should swell, not sink in.....
you need to be evaluated with a hertel exophthalmometer (great scrabble word, eh?) as there is a marked difference in the pictures. Stress doesn't cut it as an explanation.
found something online called unilateral upper eyelid ptosis, google images has a lot of phots
some look like my eye
Ya, but your lid position in the pictures doesn't show ptosis. The lid margin of the upper and lower eyelid as compare to your pupil edge are the same on both sides. Not true in ptosis.
and in the old picture you are smiling, so hard to tell, but looks about the same on both sides
ahh.. cool.. well..thank you for your help.. i will wait for referral and hope for the best
thanks for your time
Sorry I couldn't figure it out for you...but the pictures really did help.
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