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I feel like there are eyelashes getting into my eyes, and gritty

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I feel like there are eyelashes getting into my eyes, and gritty particles under my eyelids. The hair on my head, my eyebrows, mustache, and eyelashes all "tickle", or sort of itch. I have no rashes, no allergies, and no one knows what is causing these symptoms. Any ideas?
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Eye
Expert:  Dr. Dan B. replied 3 years ago.

Hello and thanks for your question. Do you have any burning, tearing, mattering of your eyelashes, sensitivity to light, discharge or redness to your eyes?

 

Do you have any skin problems such as rosacea?

Customer: replied 3 years ago.
I only have tearing and a little discharge immediately after I wake up in the morning. I feel like there is "mattering" under my eyelashes often, like little bits of grit. No sensitivity to light, or burning. My eye doctor put me on a steroid and anti-hystamine drops today, to take down the swelling and hopefully prevent further aggravation, but he does not know what is causing the problem, only how to diminish the symptoms until a cause is found.
Expert:  Dr. Dan B. replied 3 years ago.

These symptoms of foreign-body sensation, tearing, mattering in the morning are quite consistent with a dry-eye syndrome. Dry eyes can be due to many different factors. Different medicines such as psychiatric medicines, antihistamines, cold medicines and others can contribute to dry eyes. Allergies in the eyes can also contribute (make dry eyes worse). Some people have an innate deficiency in making their own tears (these people may also have other dry mucus membranes, such as their mouth, nasal passages, or genitalia). Many people have an inflammation in the eyelids called blepharitis which causes the tear film that is supposed to coat the front of the eye to not function as well, and then the eyes dry out. People with blepharitis have morning tearing, burning, and often eyelash mattering. Their symptoms get better as the day progresses, but then they get intermittent blurring when they use their eyes heavily in activities such as reading, watching TV, computer use or driving.

Because blepharitis is so under-diagnosed and the treatment for it is relatively benign, you might consider starting this treatment, while concurrently continuing artificial tears. In order to treat blepharitis, everyday in the morning you should do two things: 1. hot compresses and 2. eyelid scrubs. You should do hot compresses for 5-10 minutes over each eye at the same time. It should be as hot as you can tolerate without burning your skin, massaging the eyelids while they are on there. Then, use either commercially available preparations or a dilute baby shampoo solution to scrub your eyelashes on all 4 eyelids. The commercially available preparations are called Ocusoft or Sterilid which are both over-the-counter eyelash scrubbing treatments. These cost more money but are quicker to use. Otherwise, the cheaper alternative is the dilute baby shampoo (4-5 drops Johnson's shampoo in 1/4 cup warm water), you will take the wipe (or dip a qtip in the dilute baby shampoo solution) and use that to scrub right on the eyelashes of each eyelid for 15 seconds. That will take 60 seconds when done to all 4 eyelids. The scrubbing is done right on the eyelid margin, where the eyelashes come out. After that, just splash some water on the eyes and you're done.

It does take about 3-4 weeks of doing this consistently every day before it really kicks in, so don't stop it thinking it's not working. Also the eyes are still significantly dry during this 3-4 weeks so use the artificial tears you bought 4x/day in both eyes (one drop per application). After 4 weeks you should be able to start tapering off of the tears to as you need them.

Just doing the artificial tears, hot compresses and eyelid scrubs alone would likely start to help you after three or 4 weeks--but remember it could take this long of doing it everyday before you see a significant effect, so don't stop it thinking it's not working.

If you are a person that doesn't make their own tears very well, then you may also benefit from a prescription drop called Restasis, which actually modulates a person's immune system to help them make more of their own tears. This drop actually requires constant usage on a daily basis for up to 10-12 weeks before its effect kicks in (takes awhile to change the immune response in the body).

Because there are numerous reasons for dry eye, if not all the reasons that exist in one patient are treated, it can seem as though the ones that are being treated are providing no benefit. If you've tried these recommendations and still don't feel better then you should consider seeing a corneal specialist for a dry eye evaluation.

 

 

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Customer: replied 3 years ago.
I can see where some of what you suggest may fit, but alot of it also doesn't. I don't have any flaking or sensitivity to light, and would think that my Optometrist would have come up with this same diagnosis. I know that it may not be connected to the other symptomology, and that you are a specialist in eye diseases, but the "itching" "tickling" sensations in my eyebrows, mustache and hair would have nothing to do with the "dry-eye sydrome" you are suggesting is the cause of the eye condition. I want to believe you are on to something, but am a bit skeptical, since I have seen so many specialists who I would think would have made this diagnosis, if it truly addresses the underlying cause of all of my symptomology. Why would they all occur at the same time, unless they all have something to do with dehydration?
Expert:  Dr. Dan B. replied 3 years ago.

I cannot explain why you have the itching and tickling sensations in your eyebrows, mustache, and hair and tie that neatly into your eye symptoms. These dermatological symptoms you have are consistent with dry, flaky skin, which can be seen with dry eye syndrome.

 

As far as your not having any flaking or sensitivity to light, not every symptom that can be associated with dry eye necessarily needs to exist in one patient, and they usually all don't happen in the same individual simultaneously. I will also tell you that even as a trained specialist, there are many of my colleagues who not only do not notice all of the signs of dry eye, but that these aren't investigated very thoroughly and consistently by all ophthalmologists, who are medical doctors. Optometrists, as a generality, usually are not as concerned with medical symptoms such as these as ophthalmologists are. That's not to say that your optometrist is not concerned with this or did not look for this, but it is to say that it is very easily overlooked. As to why they are occurring simultaneously, the eyelids are most definitely associated with the skin and share the skin's problems quite frequently so it doesn't surprise me to see these symptoms flare up at the same time.

 

Does that make sense?

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Customer: replied 3 years ago.
Yes, makes sense. I just don't have the dry, flaky skin symptoms either. It isn't my skin that has any problems . . . no rashes, no patches, no redness, nothing. It is the hair. Doesn't make sense, does it? I will likely go to a dermatology clinic and see what they have to say. I appreciate your feedback. You sound like a learned gentleman, and I value those who communicate clearly and to the point. Thank you.
Expert:  Dr. Dan B. replied 3 years ago.
I guess what I meant to say is that the hair follicles are part of the skin, they are appendages of the skin and therefore are connected in that manner. But I agree, the fact that there are no rashes, patches, redness or any other skin findings is a bit odd. I hope that you can find some help at the dermatologist. I hope this has helped somewhat and I appreciate your thoughtful responses and additional history.

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