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Im looking for information from a Surveyors point of view,

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I'm looking for information from a Surveyor's point of view, and need some basic information as to how to calculate a piece of land.

Submitted: 12 months ago.
Category: Engineering
Expert:  Josie-Mod replied 12 months ago.

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Customer: replied 12 months ago.

Hi, I'm still waiting...

Expert:  Josie-Mod replied 12 months ago.

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Thank you for your reply. Sometimes, finding the right Professional can take a little longer than expected and we thank you greatly for your understanding. We’ll be in touch again shortly.

Customer: replied 12 months ago.

That is fine; it is a complicated question.

Expert:  ibosley replied 12 months ago.

Where is the land located? If you purchase a handheld GPS you can log each coordinate of the triangle and send them to me and I can calculate the area based on the distance between coordinates. You can get a GPS for about 60$ but it will only be accurate to about 10-20 feet.

When you sell a piece of land you will be required to have it surveyed for the purposes of placing it on the tax records. However, I can help you estimate it.

Customer: replied 12 months ago.

It is in the U.S. ; I have the survey information from the County, but I want to get is an estimation on the part that I would like to sub-divide to sale and keep the rest of the land.

I don't own a GPS. I'd go for gps at 60$ Which one?

Expert:  ibosley replied 12 months ago.

This is a cheap solution to your problem:

http://www.amazon.com/BackTrack-International-Gray-Orange-Color/dp/B001N0S3L4/ref=sr_1_92?s=gps&ie=UTF8&qid=1340473352&sr=1-92&keywords=gps

The Bushnell Backtrack will let you log your location and then store it. So go to the corner of your parcel, log its location using the device and walk to the other corner. It will display the total distance you traveled "as a crow flies" which is how land is sold. Keep in mind that it is only accurate to within 3-5 yards. Without surveying equipment you won't get an official measurement but for what you are trying to do I think you will be satisfied with this method.

Write back if you need any more help.

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Customer: replied 12 months ago.

Your suggestion is pretty cool..... I may get back with you on this..
Thanks.

Expert:  ibosley replied 12 months ago.

Hey I am opting out but if you need me I'll be around. I can't answer any other questions if I don't opt out of this one since you answered last. I hope that works for you, if not feel free to ask for more help. Thank you.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.

Hi, I've finally got the coordinates and would like your help, if you have the time.

Expert:  ibosley replied 11 months ago.

Sure, as long as it doesn't take me very long.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.

Here are the points:
N36 DEG 44.305'; W108 DEG, 11.583';
" 44.272'; W11.616;
" 44.294': W11.559;
" 44.274'; W11.573.




Expert:  ibosley replied 11 months ago.

I get 24972 square feet, or .57 acres. I would say overall this is about 10% accurate. Therefore I would say at least .51 acres and no more than .63. I obtained these values by plotting two separate triangles on a map from your coordinates and finding their individual areas.

I would like to point out that your south road point is close to the road. However, the north road point is about 10 feet away from the road. Just wanted to bring this to your attention.

Customer: replied 11 months ago.

Ok, now I'm somewhat confused, and I am not questioning your experise.

I had guesstimated that the area that I had taken the corner readings for was/ is around .60 of an acre, and so I'm glad that this has been pretty well confered, but I have a few more questions now.
How can your estimate be about 10% accurate. Did you mean to say it is 90% accurate with a 10% in-accuracy?
Also the most northern point was taken while standing right on the concrete curb of the road, and the south point was taken at a relative position of 5' off the curb there and in conjunction with the funky triagular corner.
I'm wondering if that southern position that I read from the GPS has kind of messed up the calculations. It was taken on a curve in the road at the front of the property, at a point that is an acute angle of the property lines intersection.

Expert:  ibosley replied 11 months ago.

I forgot to put my +/- in front of my 10%. I meant to say that the measurement is accurate to +/- 10%, or that the value can be 90% to 110% of what I calculated, sorry for the confusion.

10% is a number I made up. It includes the inaccuracies of your gps, my plot of the coordinates, and my measurements between them all. Only a surveyor can tell you what it actually is, and that costs a good amount of money.

I think you have a fairly accurate estimate of it, especially if you are just in pre-negotiation for a selling price of the rest of the plot. Being off by .03 acres will be equivalent to you leaving our a strip of land a couple of feet wide.

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