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How precisely was the 1199 forged? Also, what are you trying to achieve here? I very much look forward to helping you on this matter.
Please kindly respond to me here rather than starting new question threads. In the other question thread, you stated:
"The employee knew the document was signed by his girlfriend, she does not have power of attorney. He brought this complaint to me as I am the Operations Manager."
Please help me understand. The employee knew that the form was not signed by him and yet he turned it in to you? Why would he have submitted the form if it was not signed by him?
Thank you. There are a lot of different people involved in this situation, and it's an unusual situation, so I'm having trouble following.
I still don't understand why the employee would submit the form if he was only going to later turn around and say that he never signed it and his signature was forged. Also, why did the HR rep give this employee's form directly to his girlfriend? Does she work for the company, too?
Thanks. I was typing an answer. Are you saying you no longer need assistance with this?
I understand. I don't mean to be obtuse but are you asking a question?
If I can help you in any way, just let me know. But right now I am unsure what if anything you want me to do for you....
To be honest I do not see this as an ethics error. If an employee turns in a document knowing that someone else signed it for them, then they implicitly consented to that person signing for them. Otherwise, why else would they have turned in the document? The fact the employee later changed their mind and decided they didn't like that their girlfriend signed does not make any sense at all. What difference does it make who signed if you wanted direct deposit and turned in the form? There is no damage. The same result would have been achieved regardless of who signed. Honestly, this reeks of a personal dispute between the employee and his girlfriend where the employee is now trying to get his girlfriend in trouble.
While I certainly understand your concern about the HR manager not catching the signature discrepancy, you must understand that when someone turns in a document on their own behalf, it is presumed that the signature is authentic. So, the discrepancy is something that could easily be missed.
I don't see any legal protection arising from a complaint about the HR manager's failings here. I see this as boiling down to a matter of company politics and more about personal relationships than the law.
These are my thoughts. If you have a specific question I am happy to address it for you.