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Roland td9kx2

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roland td9kx2
Submitted: 3 months ago.
Category: Electronic Musical Instruments
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I really need some help with connecting my Roland TD9-KX2 MIDI to my PC
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
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Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

Hi, thank you for contacting JustAnswer.com. My name is***** will do my best to provide the right answer to your question.

What is the problem with the connection process?

Is it that you need instructions on how to go about it?

Or that you have such instructions, but it is not working?

Let me know more, and I will advise you.

(I regret that I am not able to offer Live Phone Call service at this time; However, your request is still open to other Experts in this category, and one of them may pick up on it at any time.)

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Hi mate, basically...
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I have connected my Roland KD9KX2 to my PC, via a USB MIDI Cable
I have downloaded a a MIDI application which is designed to recognize a MIDI signal, but it just doesn't seem to be picking up any signals. The MIDI Light is on, but the IN and OUT lights are off, but im really not sure why
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

OK. I see. Thanks for the response and the info.

You will have to make sure

A. that the MIDI cable is OK. (If it's new, probably it is.)

B. that the Roland is set up for MIDI Output. (Necessary!)

C. that the MIDI cable is connected to the MIDI OUT on the Roland - right? or wrong? OK, probably the MIDI IN. But make sure you're clear on that point, as to which is supposed to be producing MIDI signals, and which is to receive them. Normally the PC would be receiving, I'd think.

D. what's the MIDI app called, please?

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I think I need help with point B! Just to make sure im doing it properly, I have connected both MIDI IN and MIDI OUT into the roland drum kit, and the usb to the PC, its called MIDI OX
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
If you manage to fix this for me i will genuinely transfer YOU money, struggling so bad with this
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

OK. So what you're aiming at is

Drum Kit ---> MIDI IN on Roland (right?) (1)

Roland MIDI OUT ---> PC (right?) (2)

(3:) What input on the PC are you plugging up to? from the Roland MIDI Out.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
unfortunately it is a laptop, I have don't have midi output connection, is that essential? is this where I am going wrong here
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
There is no MIDI connection on my laptop at all, just the USB obviously, the Roland has the MIDI IN and OUT
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

So, does the MIDI cable used to the laptop have a MIDI-to-USB converter/adapter function?

That would be needed. If you need ref.s, let me know.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I would of thought so, but Im not entirely sure, is there a way of finding out?
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
do u have whatsapp? maybe i could send you a photo? if thats allowed?
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

OK then!

A MIDI to USB adapter cable, plus probably driver for the computer (no doubt provided with the adapter cable) is what you might be needing here.

What laptop do you have? by maker and model #. It might have a MIDI input/output of an obscure type on its sound card, if it is one of certain (not terribly frequently encountered) models.

Send a photo! by all means. Use the 'paperclip' icon in your Reply To Expert editor, and I'll be able to see what's going on. Or by other means if that doesn't work.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-USB-to-Midi-In-Out/dp/B000XRI3CC would this cable work? because this is what i have
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

I'm looking that up...

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
my laptop is a lenovo B50 i believe
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

I'm looking that up too...

(Meanwhile, what does the 'direction' LED indicator on the MIDI -to-USB adapter indicate?)

(Also, given that there are two MIDI plugs on the adapter, which one of the two are you using? and are they distinguished as one of them IN and the other OUT? in which case you have to use the right one of the two.)

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
well my computer seems to pick the MIDI signal of my kit, it knows there is a midi device connected, because it appears on my devices. So i presume that's why the red light is on. However, it doesn't seem to be recognizing any hits
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

(Also, given that there are two MIDI plugs on the adapter, which one of the two are you using? and are they distinguished as one of them IN and the other OUT? in which case you have to use the right one of the two.)

The Lenovo has no fancy sound card inputs, no. One point: you might want to try using the USB 2.0 plugs on it, not the (blue-marked) USB 3.0 plugs, in case that matters to the hookup working. Not everything works with USB 3.0.

Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

That sounds as if the problem is elsewhere.

Is the drum kit recognizably sending signals to the Roland mixer? can you verify that?

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I have plugged the IN MIDI wire into the IN MIDI plug of the Roland kit, and the same with the OUT MIDI plug, I have just tried unplugging one at a time, but still no luck. Sorry what is the Roland mixer?
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
thats a good point, and it is connected to USB 2
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

The Roland device in question is a mixer isn't it?

Sorry if I lost track... oh, it's a drum kit. OK! that straightens that out.

So how many devices are involved? just the drum kit and the laptop? or is there something else?

If only

drum kit ---> laptop

is involved, then you connect the MIDI Out of the drum kit to the MIDI-to-USB adapter, and the USB plug of the MIDI-to-USB-adapter to the USB 2.0 jack on the laptop.

Set the drum kit to MIDI Output (if that is necessary, if it isn't just a default status).

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
This is a graph of what I have doneROLAND DRUM KIT <<< MIDI IN & MIDI OUT -- (cable) -- USB >>> LAPTOPHow do i setup the midi output on my kit? i think that is one of the major problems? if you are aware?
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

Don't connect to the MIDI In on the drum kit. I don't think that's needed, nor right.

Set the adapter cable (if it has a switch) to direct MIDI Input through it to the USB. (I'm not sure which setting that is, I don't have that exact cable)

Otherwise OK.

Just power down the drum kit, after making these connections and being sure the adapter is set to the right direction (MIDI signals going toward the laptop.)

Then wait a half minute or longer, and turn On the drum kit. See if that gets to the PC software properly.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Okay i have unplugged the IN MIDI, do i have to manually install a driver for the cable? or does it do it automatically?
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

The TD9 series doesn't seem to have any 'configuration'... you just plug the right cable to the MIDI OUT on the TD9 series. Nobody mentions anything else ... except that a MIDI Interface box is sometimes needed (in which case, hopefully your adapter cable works in its place) between the drum kit and the computer, and also the TD9 series drum kit needs to be selected in your software as a MIDI IN source in the software on your computer.

Also the software on your computer needs to select USB as the source of the MIDI signal coming IN.

That cable, the Amazon page for it, is supposed to not need a driver.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
im starting to think the cable is the issue
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
The software as in the MIDI OX?
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
i have selected MONITOR - INPUT on the software, but still no recognition
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

That could be the case. Adapter cables are problematical.

Make sure the direction light on the cable's 'dongle' or thick portion, is indicating the right direction of MIDI signal flow!

And after that you might have to give up and get a small MIDI Adapter box.

The software on the laptop, yes. But not MIDI OX. There's no output to the drum kit as yet. So the software should be set to MIDI IN.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
im sorry i am not sure what software you are referring to, im not great with technical stuff to be honest
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

But - does your TD9-series drum kit have a USB port?

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

The software you mentioned before:

I have downloaded a a MIDI application which is designed to recognize a MIDI signal, but it just doesn't seem to be picking up any signals.

As for the USB port... is it the littler 'house-shaped' type? if so, get a USB cable with that (type B, I think it's called) USB end, it's also known as a USB printer cable, and connect the drum kit to the PC using that. It might solve all problems, and also prove the adapter cable you got is bogus or flakey or no good.

USB A to USB B involves nothing more than a differently shaped jack, but the wires are the same, and no adapter function involved. Much more foolproof.

This might help too, if not too basic, esp the part labeled

MIDI PORTS: How we get MIDI data into and out of the computer

:

http://tweakheadz.com/how-to-get-started-with-midi-and-the-difference-between-midi-and-audio-is-explained-along-with-many-other-core-concepts-for-building-a-home-recording-studio/

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Thanks.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Okay i think I am finished for today to be fair. Can we carry on our conversation tomorrow though? I will give A dont worry, because you have been helpful
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

That's fine! let's have a break on this. And if you could get the USB A to USB B ('USB printer cable') first and try it, that would make sure my advice is A-OK.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Okay I will try and do that, so just to confirm, a USB connection from the roland to the laptop?
Expert:  Russell H. replied 3 months ago.

Correct! Roland drum kit USB port to USB (2.0) port on laptop. Cable to match each end.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Hi Russell, I have some more info that might help you to help me. Im actually trying to connect my roland drums to a game called PHASE SHIFT, which is the PC equivalent of ROCK BAND or GUITAR HERO. It is a music game which uses MIDI data, therefore I don't think a USB connection between would work, however I am still going to try it, because it wouldn't hurt i guess

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