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# Switched circuit for a garbage disposal that has never been

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Switched circuit for a garbage disposal that has never been installed. I intended to use it for under cabinet LED lighting, but I am getting confusing readings at the single pole switch.
JA: I'll do all I can to help. How long have you been dealing with this?
Customer: Today. It was wired previously with a single pole switch.. Switch OFF: 120V hot to ground, 120 V neutral to ground, 74 V hot to neutral
JA: Do you plan on doing the work yourself?
Customer: It WAS a simple wiring job until I got unexpected readings on the existing circuit.
JA: How old is the system in question? And have you consulted an electrician yet?
Customer: Home built in 2004. I checked main panel. I have 120V between breaker load side (BLACK) and neutral bar
Customer: SWITCH ON: I get 120 V neutral to ground, 0 V hot to ground and 120 V neutral to hot
Submitted: 3 months ago.
Category: Electrical
Expert:  Kevin replied 3 months ago.

Hello and welcome to Just Answer. My name is ***** ***** I will be happy to assist you with your electrical question.

1) N to G should measure 0 volts, You have either an open neutral or a loose neutral. Double check the neutral terminations/splices.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I wanted to make sure my initial response was correct. I went back and checked. B = Hot W = Neutral G = Ground
Switch ON: B-G = 0 Volts, W-G=120 Volts, B-W=74 Volts
Switch OFF: B-G = 120 Volts, W-G=120 Volts, B-W=0 Volts
Expert:  Kevin replied 3 months ago.

When the switch is OFF, there should always be 120 volts from hot to ground and from hot to neutral.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Just checking to make sure the call request went through the system.
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Are you still in chat?
Expert:  Kevin replied 3 months ago.

Yes I am

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
I understand the expected voltage. Last year, a electrician installed a double pole breaker on this circuit when my heat pump was installed. He stated that the grounds were tied together and that two separate (single pole circuits) were unsafe. The double pole main breaker controls the dishwasher on one 120 circuit and the disposal on the other one. So, I know there is some type of problem with the disposal circuit, but I can't restore power to the dishwasher without reenergizing the disposal.
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
What is the likely culprit on the disposal circuit? The circuit at the main panel is B-W 120 volts.
Expert:  Kevin replied 3 months ago.

1) Most likely the circuit is configured as a shared neutral circuit. I suspect an open neutral or a loose neutral termination based on your measurements. Shared neutral circuits are very common for DW's and disposals.

2) Double pole breakers or a common handle tie are required by code for a shared neutral circuit.

Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Understand...out of curiosity. Aren't all circuits technically shared neutrals since they terminate on the neutral bar in the main breaker panel?Thanks. I will check the neutral lugs in the main breaker panel.
Customer: replied 3 months ago.
Have a great night!
Expert:  Kevin replied 3 months ago.

No, 120 volt circuits can either have a dedicated neutral and a dedicated hot or can be shared with 2 hots and 1 shared neutral.

Doubt the problem will be a loose neutral on the main neutral bus bar. If so, you will be experiencing dimming lights in the entire house. The problem is limited to a neutral issue only on the DW/dishwasher circuit if it is a shared neutral.

Expert:  Kevin replied 3 months ago.

Hope this helps………If you have any additional questions, just let me know and I’ll be glad to answer them for you.

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Thanks...............Kevin:)