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Welcome. My name is XXXXX XXXXX would be glad to assist.
Do you have a 2 lead voltage tester with readout?
Now, you say you have 3- 14/2 cables in that switch box?
yes on one the common is clipped its like that at the fan motor also
Ok, so, there are 3 -14/2 cables and 2 switches in the box, one for ceiling fan and one for whole house fan, is that correct?
We need to get the wiring confirmed, so we have to go one step at a time in this situation
no sir itsXXXXXswitch on/off/on high and low speed
Ok, you also stated a ceiling fan out?
so what all is out and how many switches?
but the other wire controls the light and ceiling fan,yes the ceiling fan is out
let me ask once again, how many items are out? and how many switches?
ceiling fan/light, whole house fan, bathroom wall light switch
have you tested any receptacles to see if any are also out?
one switch for whole house fan one sw for ceiling fan one for bathroomlight
So, all receptacles working?
can;t find where power came from
no receps are working
Ok, are any of the switches hanging out the boxes and still connected?
Do you have ground wires in the boxes?
ceiling fan no, bathroom yes
whole house yes
when was the house built?
whole house fan yes
Ok, there should be ground wires in all boxes, maybe they are pushed in the back
the ceiling fan has two switches one for light one for fan two blk one white no ground
Ok, take the meter and set for 200 ac volts, take one lead and touch the ground wire and keep it there, then one lead touch each screw on the switches. See if any screw shows power.
when I checked the whole house fan switch wires I got 00.1
nothing from the others
ok, thanks, XXXXX XXXXX the meter, go to a receptacle anywhere that is working and one lead in the left side and one in the right side, see what it reads
In the whole house fan switch box, how are the 3 blacks connected in the box? or the switch
one blk to a red wire on switch, one to a yellow one to a blue.
how about the bedroom switches, see how all the blacks are connected in the box or to the switches? If there are reds also, those too
there are 2 blks,1 white in the bedroom, 1 ground 1 blk, 1white for the bathroom
how are the blacks connected? to each other? to the switches?
2 blk on one side of the switch
white on other side
this switch is for what?
1 white 1blk 1 ground for bathroom
for ceiling fan and light
ok, if the bedroom switch has 3 wires on one switch, what is on the other one?
sorry its a double switch
ok, got it now, thanks
Do you know which circuit breaker controls those items?
I have a circuit breaker Identifier but still could not find the breaker
normal identifiers have to have power, you dont have power on those items
I even checked power to every breaker
that makes sense
Ok, all those switches receive power from another location, they only have power into the box to the items the switches operate. They do not feed any power out.
What that means, is they all have a point where they connect to other cables.
either in a receptacle or a light box
now, you can turn on the bathroom light switch and then take a table lamp or drill or something, then plug it into a receptacle close by, then jiggle it to see if the bath light comes on
that is one way a loose connection shows up if it is in a receptacle
receptacles have power in and then power out, so it can still work but not send power to the next location
Checking connections in light boxes is more difficult, as you have to remove the light to get to the wires for testing. Somewhere your black wire is loose to all those items, so there is a wire nut with several black wires in it, and one is not making connection at this time
Now, you may be able to find that cable going down to the whole house fan switch and follow it in the attic to see where it goes,
Is the bedroom and bath next to each other?
ok, hall light is working?
yes and the bathroom heater and fan is also
first place I would check is the breakers, but you did that correct? All had 120 volts?
yes all have 120 volts I followed the wires they go frm the housefan to the closet light to the ceiling fan to the bathroom its crazy
Ok, I would go to the closet light, it seems that is the common point. There will be several cables in the box probably and it will have 3 or 4 black wires connected together with a wire nut. Undo that connection and redo it and make sure there is good copper to copper before applying the wire nut back.
I will check for a loose black wire in all those places I guess thats all I have left. Thank You for your patience and expert advice
power does that, goes from point to point, so the fan gets it power from the closet light box, then the bedroom does too and the bath is sounds from your description
Check and it and if the problem is not there come back and we can try to find the next logical point
Look good at the black wires and be careful because if the closet light works, there is power, just no getting out to everything else