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Hello I have a light switch box with 2 switches. Now there are 3 14-2 wires and 1 14-3 wire. I am replacing the switches and the old ones are still attached to wires however I have one white wire not attached to anything and has only a cap on it and one white wire was attached to the ground wires. I don't think that is right but I am unsure as I am new to electrical. I need help on how to wire these switches properly. Thank you

Submitted: 297 days and 15 hours ago.
Category: Electrical
Value: CA$35
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Expert:  Jason replied297 days and 15 hours ago.


Jason :

Hello. Welcome to Just Answer.

Jason :

Is this an older home?

Jason :

Are you able to post a photo here, with all wires shown?

Customer : Yes it is a 1992
Customer : Mobile home and how do I post pictures on here?
Jason :

To post a photo, you would need to first save it to your computer in JPEG format. Then, click the paper clip icon on the toolbar, to browse to the location where the image is stored.

Customer : I am on my iPhone
Jason :

That's okay. We may be able to do this without a photo anyway.

Jason :

Do you have bare copper wires in the wall box?

Customer : Yes all ground wires and are all connected with screw cap
Jason :

OK, that's good. Now, the only wire that's really in question is the white that's tied in with the grounds. The other white, which is capped off by itself, is evidently not needed. So, I would just leave it that way. However, the white that is in with the bares... if you disconnect that, does anything stop working?

Customer : Well the thing is there is a outdoor light fixture attached to that box and isn't in use at the moment but the main hallway light that is on a 14-3 circuit is in use. I have turned power back on and everything works normal ( unsure about the outdoor light) both the stand alone white wire and the one attached to the ground wires are not live. I will get a bulb and go check that outside light if it works.
Jason :

OK, great. If it does, I would not connect the white wire that was in with the bare wires.

Customer : So now what do I do with these 2 white wires? Connect them with screw cap or separately cap and tape them?
Jason :

I would cap them seperately.

Jason :

Often, when a white wire is tied in with bare ground wires, it's because there's a problem with the neutral wire on that circuit. But if that's not the case at your house, that's very fortunate. That type of issue can often be very difficult to track down.

Customer : Ok now I was wondering can white wires be grounds and could that be why it was attached to the ground wires
Jason :

They aren't supposed to be grounds, it's actually a Code violation.

Customer : Ok I just wanted to make sure thank you very much
Jason :

You are most welcome. Is there anything else I can do for you at this time?

Customer : Nope everything is squared away here I just wanted to make sure I was done properly thank you very much
Jason :

My pleasure. If you have found my answer helpful, please take the time to rate it, to let me know how I've done. Thank you!

Customer : Oh 1 more thing
Jason :

Of course.

Customer : Is it ok If on the switch the pigtail and the black wire are touching or do the have to be installed on the same terminal by one in the quick wire and one one the screw? Or can both be on the screw?
Jason :

Great question. Would you like me to explain the very best method for attaching multiple wires to the same terminal?

Customer : Yes please
Jason :

Absolutely. First, it would be a Code violation to put two wires on one terminal screw. So, I recommend pigtailing the wires. To do that, bring the two wire ends together, along with a third short (6" or so) piece of wire. Splice all three to each other in one wire nut. Then, take the other end of the short piece to the terminal screw.

Customer : Ok so after that's done how do I attach the pigtail plus the two wires to the switch
Jason :

I would strip and curl the lone end of the pigtail, and connect it to the screw on the side of the switch.

Customer : And then the other two put one on bottom post and another right beside the pigtail? This was how it was done before ( pigtail fr
Jason :

Can you clarify which other two wires you are asking about? How many total wires were connected to the original switch?

Customer : From 3 wires to screw then another wire from another 14-2 line to the quick wire terminal on the same switch and same post as the pigtail
Customer : The last two messages are one message. Pressed enter by accident
Jason :

It's okay to use the push-in connection on the back, but they're not know as high integrity connection points. They are actually prone to failure. So, whatever the total number of wires you need connected to one point on a device, splice all of those to each other, along with a pigtail, in one wire nut. Then take the other end of the pigtail the the desired terminal. That references all wires connected to the pigtail to that terminal, and to each other.

Customer : Oh ok that would mean I just would have 2 pigtails in the same box. Is that ok?
Jason :

Yes, that's fine. Not uncommon at all.

Customer : Oh ok thank for your helP I should be fine now
Jason :

My pleasure. I enjoyed our chat. Thank you for the opportunity to help.

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